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Stay (The Second Time Around) [Solved]

Postby yellowsky » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:58 am

Thanks eight6! Well, rule out Andre! But has anyone heard Andre Cymone and if so, did you like it? I did!
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:16 am

My buddy thinks this is a group called Modern Vision. I don't know them from Adam, and I don't know the song, either, so I wouldn't recommend tracking down their catalogue on his account. I like it, though. Just needs to be sped up a bit.
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Postby Crimsor » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:29 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
<br>My buddy thinks this is a group called Modern Vision. I don't know them from Adam, and I don't know the song, either, so I wouldn't recommend tracking down their catalogue on his account. I like it, though. Just needs to be sped up a bit.
[/quote]

I give up. I can't find anything about this band.

Keith

BTW Arent you glad I took your advice about not trying to track them down on his account??
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:07 pm

He may be on to something:

http://www.musicstack.com/item/7458996/ ... fsz_+she's

http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364 ... ision/stay

Did he come up with Modern Vision from memory or from a web search? If it was from memory, I bet he nailed it.
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:06 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>He may be on to something:

http://www.musicstack.com/item/7458996/ ... fsz_+she's

http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364 ... ision/stay

Did he come up with Modern Vision from memory or from a web search? If it was from memory, I bet he nailed it.
[/quote]

Not from a search. He was a club DJ in the '80s who used to spend a lot of time in Europe picking up records (plenty of which weren't released here). After I sent the clip his way, he said he's heard it before, and thought the group's name was Modern Vision or Modern Visions, but he couldn't be sure. I did the search and spotted a Modern Vision with a 1985 single "Stay / She's Waiting," and the pieces would seem to fit, but he's mixed things up before...

The one thing working in our favor is a Poésie Noire (a group I'm vaguely familiar with) website which contains a gig list that shows the two bands played concerts together in the mid-'80s. Poésie Noire had a sound very much similar to this song.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:51 am

I might take a chance and order it. It seems like it has to be the right one. The only problem is that if it's the right one, it might take me awhile before I can rip it to mp3 and share it. I did e-mail them asking if it was still in stock. I guess that's the first step.
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Postby eight6 » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:33 am

At least that is a fresh direction to go in. The trail has gone cold on this song a few times now.

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/dbince/eight.gif"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/dbince/spinning6.gif">
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Postby Panorama » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:30 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
I did e-mail them asking if it was still in stock. I guess that's the first step.
[/quote]I just emailed the 2 sellers and asked:
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Hi CDExpress,

http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364 ... ision/stay
I see you have a 7" record by Modern Vision - Stay
item Number: 9382835 era
132744
bside : she's waiting belgium pict sleeve 7\"

Is there any way you can listen to the actual 7" record and verify if it's the same song in this mp3 clip:
http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3

We are trying to determine if it is the same - if it is, we will purchase the record.

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Hi Black Rhythm Records,

http://www.musicstack.com/item/7458996/ ... fsz_+she's
I see you have a 7" record by Modern Vision - Stay / She's Waiting
Label: TOUCH 85 901
Item Number: e65826
Release Country: BEL

Is there any way you can listen to the actual 7" record and verify if it's the same song in this mp3 clip:
http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3

We are trying to determine if it is the same - if it is, we will purchase the record.
-----

So we will see if they are cooperative.
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:08 pm

That's probably the best way to do it. Are sellers usually cooperative like Roberta, or are a lot of them all just, "Buy it and you'll find out."? Because I just saw that the single I spotted at erarecords.com is no longer in the catalogue as of today. So somebody put a hold and/or an order on it. And, well, hopefully it was a hold, because don't shoot the messenger, ya know!
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Postby Crimsor » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:22 am

I emailed ERA and asked if it was still avaialable and someone named Kees emailed me back and told me it was sold last Monday. Hopefully someone here bought it and will rip it to mp3. I would think it would be a giant coincidence if someone else bought it, out of nowhere!

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Postby Panorama » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:14 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Dan Coogan[/i]
I just emailed the 2 sellers and asked:
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Hi CDExpress,

http://www.musicstack.com/item/22801364 ... ision/stay
I see you have a 7" record by Modern Vision - Stay
item Number: 9382835 era
132744
bside : she's waiting belgium pict sleeve 7\"

Is there any way you can listen to the actual 7" record and verify if it's the same song in this mp3 clip:
http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3

We are trying to determine if it is the same - if it is, we will purchase the record.
-----

So we will see if they are cooperative.
[/quote]
UPDATE: 7/17/05
Here is the response from: info@cdexpress.com

Hello Dan,

Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.

Best regards,
Erwin
Rockhouse

ROCKHOUSE RECORDS BV / CDEXPRESS.COM
PAMPUSLAAN 67
1382 JM WEESP
HOLLAND
TEL (31) (0) 294 - 460548
FAX (31) (0) 294 - 460547
EMAIL: INFO@CDEXPRESS.COM
WEBSITE: HTTP://WWW.CDEXPRESS.COM
--------------------
My response to them:
Thanks for Nothing... You've been no help what so ever.

(And yes, I actually did send the email with that response)

so, Strike One...
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Postby Crimsor » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:20 am

[quote]
Hello Dan,

Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.

Best regards,
Erwin
Rockhouse

[/quote]

Well, they are in Holland so you actually have to translate that. What they actually said was:

[i]Hello Dan,

Thanks for email.
Sorry but we all stood here and discussed it and decided that none of us wants to walk over to the turntable and put that record on.
[/i]
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:22 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Crimsor[/i]
<br>[quote]
Hello Dan,

Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.

Best regards,
Erwin
Rockhouse

[/quote]

Well, they are in Holland so you actually have to translate that. What they actually said was:

[i]Hello Dan,

Thanks for email.
Sorry but we all stood here and discussed it and decided that none of us wants to walk over to the turntable and put that record on.
[/i]
[/quote]

LOL! They have it listed as a special order so it's not in stock. If you look at their fill rate it's 71%. They suck ass. We're better off not dealing with them anyway.
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Postby Panorama » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:40 pm

I posted a WANTED Post about the song to musicstack.com and got a reply today:

From: ajbelle1@netzero.com
Subject: WANT REPLY: Unknown - Stay The Second Time Around (7")
Date: July 17, 2005 5:30:37 PM MST
To: Dan Coogan

Below is a reply to the want ad you posted on http://www.musicstack.com for the following item:

Artist: Unknown - Title:
Stay The Second Time Around (7") -
Will Pay: 25.00 USD (14.27 GBP)
Looking for a song called Stay -- or possibly Stay the Second Time Around
Here is a mp3 clip of the song: http://spiritofradio.ca/SongSearch/220.mp3
If you find it, we will purchase the record.


MESSAGE LEFT BY: ajbelle1@netzero.com
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Hi Dan.
The song sound British. Could it be:

Dagaband
Second Time Around
MHM AMO94
UK
1982

http://www.nwobhm.com/dband.htm

http://www.rockdetector.com/artist,2101.sm

http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/shop/search/artist+(is)+Dagaband+(and)+style+(is)+Nwobhm.aspx

http://www.musicstack.com/my/item.cgi?i ... nre=NWOBHM

LMK if you get lucky on this one
Rick

I CAN PROVE I AM HONEST BY PROVIDING THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... TRK:ME:UFS
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Has anyone ever heard of Dagaband? I've not, but I'm not ruling anything out until we get a positive id.
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Postby SomebodySomewhere » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:15 pm

[quote]Thanks for mail
Sorry but we dont have that option.[/quote]

I guess that answers that question.

The buddy who came up with Modern Vision is British, and he doesn't know who Dagaband is. Go figure. With that said, this song doesn't exactly strike me as "heavy metal"...

http://metalarchive.com/showband.php?id=5965
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