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Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:06 pm
by discoginfo
What about track 10 on CD 2 of "Working With Fire And Steel" (Some People I Know To Lead Fantastic Lives 3:49) is it the same as the 1982 LP version??

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:06 am
by humanracer
discoginfo wrote:On the first 2-CD (DIFFICULT SHAPES & PASSIVE RHYTHMS) these four released tracks/versions are missing: African and White (First Single Version), Be Suspicious (vinyl B-side version), No Ordinary Lover (12" Version), Christian (Single Version). The first two seem not to be available on any CD. Track 3 seems to be available on the 1990 CD-maxi https://www.discogs.com/China-Crisis-Af ... ase/826643 Track 4 is available on 1990 2-CD COLLECTION - THE VERY BEST OF CHINA CRISIS. (We could also add "African And White - The Steve Proctor 1990 Remix" - 2 versions....) (oh and "Seven Sports for All (Home Demo 79/80)" and "Christian (Home Demo 79/80)" from "FINE AND ALSO RARE CHINA")

/JW
http://www.discog.info/china-crisis.html


Great list thanks! Maybe we can do one for the other two.

Christian single mix is available on several compilations. I have it in flac from kick up the eighties

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:16 am
by discoginfo
Tracks missing from the 3-CD WORKING WITH FIRE AND STEEL: Tragedy & Mystery (Single Version), Wishful Thinking (Single Version), This Occupation (7" B-side Version).
I still don't know what track 9 "Wishful Thinking (Edit)" 4.40 is. Mistake on discogs.com? And track 10 "Some People I Know to Lead Fantastic Lives" 3.49 -- New Version??

Tracks missing from the 2-CD FLAUNT THE IMPERFECTION: King in a Catholic Style (Single Version), You Did Cut Me (Live 19 May 1985).
I still don't know what track 6 "You Did Cut Me (Edit)" 3.59 is sourced from?

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:41 am
by humanracer
discoginfo wrote:Tracks missing from the 3-CD WORKING WITH FIRE AND STEEL: Tragedy & Mystery (Single Version), Working with Fire and Steel (Single Version),Wishful Thinking (Single Version), This Occupation (7" B-side Version).
I still don't know what track 9 "Wishful Thinking (Edit)" 4.40 is. Mistake on discogs.com? And track 10 "Some People I Know to Lead Fantastic Lives" 3.49 -- New Version??

Tracks missing from the 2-CD FLAUNT THE IMPERFECTION: King in a Catholic Style (Single Version), You Did Cut Me (Live 19 May 1985).
I still don't know what track 6 "You Did Cut Me (Edit)" 3.59 is sourced from?


Hi
Regarding the single versions, I have been able to find most of them on compilations I have. If anyone has a non vinyl source for tragedy and mystery, this please let me know. Also what is the difference between the album and single version of working with fire and steel? They are the same length?

Sadly Wishful Thinking (edit) is exactly the same as the album version.

The b side version of Some People I Know just has a longer fade out than the album version. In fact you would have to put the volume up in the last 10 seconds to know there was more than just silence.

You Did Cut Me (edit) is a mistake. It's actually a live track.

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:14 am
by Rubellan
Is the single version of 'This Occupation' on any CD? It seems to have been neglected here. And the only difference with the single version of Fire and Steel is that the line "Things get fucked and we're to blame" is changed to "Things get stuck and we're to blame". I have it on one of those Rhino New Wave Hits CD's. Isn't it the same with Hanna Hanna were the lyric "In a city all full of fucking sharks" is just changed to "In a city all full of... sharks".

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:26 am
by Passing_Stranger
So much use of F word! They were such a naughty boys - strange no-one really noticed :D

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:53 pm
by schwenko
Passing_Stranger wrote:So much use of F word! They were such a naughty boys - strange no-one really noticed :D


Gary is the same in concert, f this, f that, f-ing, f,f,f, :D

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:16 pm
by humanracer
To be fair the reissues aren't bad when you consider only a handful of tracks are missing. And even then a lot of them are minor edits. I think the only omissions I care about is the original 7" of African & White and the 7" version of This Occupation.

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:55 pm
by humanracer
I saw China Crisis in Kinross (small Scottish town) tonight. It was a very small but cosy venue. It was sold out and there was around 130 people in attendance. Gary and Eddie were on fine form, joking with each other and the audience throughout the show. Eddie's guitar playing was faultless. They were agumented by a brilliant sax player and a young guy on synths who has recreated the original sounds from the albums. Apart from a few technical glitches, it sounded pretty good.

The show was split into two parts. The first part contained several album tracks from the early 80s and three tracks from their latest album. The second part was simply the singles. The show finished with a mellow album track - Here Comes A Raincloud. Between the songs the band gave interesting stories about their early days in music. They said they prefered performing at small intimate venues throughout and getting close to the audience.

During the interval I got talking to Gary and asked me about the meaning of some of the songs. The chorus of African & White is "life is a fever in Israel" and it was about the Toxteth (Liverpool) riots of 1981 and how the media were concerned with the Israel & Palestine conflict. We also talked about Hanna Hanna and he said he city "full of sharks" was refering to London.

There were several CDs for sale but they had sold out of "Fine & Rare China" of which I only have an mp3 copy. I did buy a remastered version of the live album Scrapbook Vol 1. Apparently the original was mastered at the wrong speed. They also had their new album for sale.

Although the crowd were subdued at times, almost everyone was on their feet at the end. Most people I talked to after the gig said they were fantastic.

Setlist:
Part 1:
The Soul Awakening
Temptation's Big Blue Eyes
Some People I Know to Lead Fantastic Lives
Seven Sports for All
Feel to Be Driven Away
Autumn in the Neighbourhood
Down Here on Earth
Fool
Bigger the Punch I'm Feeling

Part 2
African and White
Best Kept Secret
Arizona Sky
Black Man Ray
Wishful Thinking
King in a Catholic Style
Working With Fire and Steel
Christian

Encore:
Tragedy and Mystery
Here Comes a Raincloud

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:09 pm
by humanracer
Hi
Does anyone know if the below has a different version of the Instigator?
https://www.discogs.com/China-Crisis-Be ... ase/832739

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:54 am
by schwenko
humanracer wrote:Hi
Does anyone know if the below has a different version of the Instigator?
https://www.discogs.com/China-Crisis-Be ... ase/832739


why was it withdrawn?

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:04 pm
by negative1
schwenko wrote:
humanracer wrote:Hi
Does anyone know if the below has a different version of the Instigator?
https://www.discogs.com/China-Crisis-Be ... ase/832739


why was it withdrawn?


Read the comment on it.

Comes in 5" Fold Out Cardsleeve. The release was withdrawn from sale because having five tracks, it was considered invalid for the official chart return status.

later
-1

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:48 pm
by schwenko
negative1 wrote:
schwenko wrote:
humanracer wrote:Hi
Does anyone know if the below has a different version of the Instigator?
https://www.discogs.com/China-Crisis-Be ... ase/832739


why was it withdrawn?


Read the comment on it.

Comes in 5" Fold Out Cardsleeve. The release was withdrawn from sale because having five tracks, it was considered invalid for the official chart return status.

later
-1


Hah!!! I have this. I bought it when it came out. never realized it had been withdrawn.

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:11 pm
by humanracer
To answer my own question, The Instigator on this CD single is different to The Instigator (Italian Fuzzbox Version)

Re: China Crisis Re-Issues

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:15 am
by Passing_Stranger
humanracer wrote:To answer my own question, The Instigator on this CD single is different to The Instigator (Italian Fuzzbox Version)

Can anybody post this version or PM it to me (in FLAC preferrably)? I'd love to hear it :)