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Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:40 am
by ZippY
omar wrote:Just got this in the mail. It's the supposed 2019 revised edition. What a mess! several tracks are chopped off slightly at the very end/beginning and there's a noticeable hiss too. The Politics Of Dancing (US 7") sounds like it's got a few seconds missing at the beginning and end much to my dismay. If anyone has their 1993 One Way Records cd still, please don't sell it as it's probably the best sounding version so far.


I was expecting this one some time ago (19-7) but it looks like this Expanded Edition has some kind of curse over it. The new release-date for our country is now 16-08. Maybe they found out about the (new) problems so far ...

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:42 am
by omar
I was really looking forward to this and now..... Luckily thanks to Audacity i was able to edit the messed up tracks and redo them.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:48 am
by Subsound
omar wrote:Just got this in the mail. It's the supposed 2019 revised edition. What a mess! several tracks are chopped off slightly at the very end/beginning and there's a noticeable hiss too. The Politics Of Dancing (US 7") sounds like it's got a few seconds missing at the beginning and end much to my dismay. If anyone has their 1993 One Way Records cd still, please don't sell it as it's probably the best sounding version so far.

Damn! Have you written to Cherry Red to ask them about it? How can you tell it’s the revised version?

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:58 am
by Qbertqubes
as I mentioned in the past, just go on line & buy the Reflex box set & stop worrying about this. The box set has everything that this set will not have.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:52 pm
by ZippY
Qbertqubes wrote:as I mentioned in the past, just go on line & buy the Reflex box set & stop worrying about this. The box set has everything that this set will not have.



This guy has a perfect rip of the 2019 2CD Expanded Edition that has no issues with the audio 8) :

http://babakazoo.blogspot.com/search/label/Re-Flex

So it seems that the 'revised-revised' version (which I am still waiting for) is correct.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:20 am
by Fred Taghon
ZippY wrote:
Qbertqubes wrote:as I mentioned in the past, just go on line & buy the Reflex box set & stop worrying about this. The box set has everything that this set will not have.



This guy has a perfect rip of the 2019 2CD Expanded Edition that has no issues with the audio 8) :

http://babakazoo.blogspot.com/search/label/Re-Flex

So it seems that the 'revised-revised' version (which I am still waiting for) is correct.

Thanks for sharing. It sounds pretty good to me, though there IS one error, I think it was the first second of "Hurt" being tacked on to the end of the track preceding it. But all the tracks sound clean and im gonna guess are from master tapes. I'm satisfied enough with what I hear that I will buy it.. I've also compared the original album tracks to my One Way cd and they definitely have more low end. Also compared cd 2 to all my vinyl transfers of my 12" singles and the cd definitely sounds better. The 12" version of Politics is different from the version on the "Pulsating Grooves" compilation cd from many years ago.

** EDIT: I neglected to detail that the one glitch is actually the beginning of "Hurt" (Track 10) on CD2. The first second of that track is actually at the end of "Cut It" (Track 9) on CD2.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:24 am
by Bellenger1981
Thank you for the info! I went ahead and ordered a copy. I still think that this was a missed opportunity to include:

The Politics of Dancing [U.S. 12" Version]
The Politics of Dancing [U.K. 7" Version]
Hurt [U.S. 7" Version]

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:02 am
by blaaah
As Fred says, the US12" is on the Pulsating Grooves compilation, the reissue has the UK 12".

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:30 am
by Bellenger1981
blaaah wrote:As Fred says, the US12" is on the Pulsating Grooves compilation, the reissue has the UK 12".

Indeed. It is. I have it. However, it is horribly compressed. That's why I was hoping for it to be included here with better mastering. Interesting that we get the U.S. 7" version but not the U.S. 12" version.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:32 am
by Fred Taghon
Bellenger1981 wrote:
blaaah wrote:As Fred says, the US12" is on the Pulsating Grooves compilation, the reissue has the UK 12".

Indeed. It is. I have it. However, it is horribly compressed. That's why I was hoping for it to be included here with better mastering. Interesting that we get the U.S. 7" version but not the U.S. 12" version.

Yeah, it is a horribly mastered cd (Pulsating Grooves).

I bought the US 7" back in '83 and I dont remember it being any different than the 7" version on all the various compilation cds over the years.were there 2 US pressings?

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:08 am
by Bellenger1981
Fred Taghon wrote:
Bellenger1981 wrote:
blaaah wrote:As Fred says, the US12" is on the Pulsating Grooves compilation, the reissue has the UK 12".

Indeed. It is. I have it. However, it is horribly compressed. That's why I was hoping for it to be included here with better mastering. Interesting that we get the U.S. 7" version but not the U.S. 12" version.

Yeah, it is a horribly mastered cd (Pulsating Grooves).

I bought the US 7" back in '83 and I dont remember it being any different than the 7" version on all the various compilation cds over the years.were there 2 US pressings?

Fortunately, Burning the Ground posted a vinyl transfer of the U.S. 12" mix that I tweaked to my liking. It sounds much better. The U.S. 7" is shorter (3:55) than the U.K. 7" (4:15), which can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DHBvEqabSo

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:02 am
by Subsound
omar wrote:Just got this in the mail. It's the supposed 2019 revised edition. What a mess! several tracks are chopped off slightly at the very end/beginning and there's a noticeable hiss too. The Politics Of Dancing (US 7") sounds like it's got a few seconds missing at the beginning and end much to my dismay. If anyone has their 1993 One Way Records cd still, please don't sell it as it's probably the best sounding version so far.

Hi omar, you definitely have the withdrawn 2018 edition, not the 2019 edition. The errors previously reported appear to have been fixed, with the exception of the new mastering error where track 2-10 starts at the end of track 2-9.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:47 am
by omar
Subsound wrote:
omar wrote:Just got this in the mail. It's the supposed 2019 revised edition. What a mess! several tracks are chopped off slightly at the very end/beginning and there's a noticeable hiss too. The Politics Of Dancing (US 7") sounds like it's got a few seconds missing at the beginning and end much to my dismay. If anyone has their 1993 One Way Records cd still, please don't sell it as it's probably the best sounding version so far.

Hi omar, you definitely have the withdrawn 2018 edition, not the 2019 edition. The errors previously reported appear to have been fixed, with the exception of the new mastering error where track 2-10 starts at the end of track 2-9.



I have the 2019 version. It says so on the credits on the back and here's the barcode:5013929441187. The 2018 version has the barcode:5013929439283. Plus the 2018 version was withdrawn from Amazon and then being sold for absurd prices everywhere. I don't know what to say. The mastering was fine. It's just that the fade out on many tracks was slightly cut off. I'd advise everyone to listen closely on headphones from beginning to end.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:27 pm
by Surly
I just saw on pauseandplay.com that this is being reissued digitally on 9/6 from X5 Music Group/Warner

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:55 am
by Fred Taghon
My copy of this arrived a few days ago. I am very satisfied with this release. The sound quality is very good (disc 2 may be just a tiny tad bass heavy for my tastes, but just a tiny tad) and the packaging is excellent as well.

The only glitch is the first half-second of the "Hurt" US 12" version comes at the end of the previous track as I had mentioned in a previous post but that's easy enough to edit, and even without fixing it, its not the end of the world.

Still not sure why the one version of the title track is called the US 7" version, because my 7" is the shorter one that appears on most 80s compliations.