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djcraig
Room at the Top
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 Posted - 03/14/2012 : 12:12:49
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After initially putting out some compelling songs on "The Hurting" album ("Mad World", "Change", "Pale Shelter"), the duo's music quickly devolved into easy listening, radio friendly schlock.
The follow up album, "Songs from the Big Chair", featured "Everybody Wants to Rule the World"- a big hit on Adult Contemporary radio. It fit right in the playlist between The Pointer Sisters and Kenny Rogers. The grating video from "Head Over Heels" was played ad nauseum on MTV, to the point of exhaustion. Nothing on the album approached the promise of their previous material.
By the time "The Seeds Of Love" album came out in 89, Orzabal and Smith were reduced to what amounts to Beatles parody. Their music now a painful reminder that the excitement of the 80s was over.
I can still listen to the early stuff but if "Head Over Heels" comes on I go into anaphylactic shock.
DJ Craig
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Screen 13
Take On Me
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Posted - 03/14/2012 : 13:27:48
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[i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
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By the time "The Seeds Of Love" album came out in 89, Orzabal and Smith were reduced to what amounts to Beatles parody. Their music now a painful reminder that the excitement of the 80s was over.
DJ Craig
For some odd reason, to me "Sowing the Seeds of Love" is to The 80's what Oasis' "All Around the World" was to The 90's - Epic over-inflated Beatles-style anthems that were overproduced and over-long with over-indulgent videos. Well, at least Liam Gallagher's attitude-driven voice saved "All Around the World" from being an MOR fixture, but that's just my opinion. It's odd to bring up two different bands, but when the similarities between songs are that strong, I have to mention it.
"Sowing" sounded like that it was aiming for "Sgt. Pepper" style achievement but forgot the humor and restraint that The Beatles had along the way. The over-ambition that plagued the Late 80's Tears for Fears ruined it for me.
Still, with that in mind, I have to agree that The Hurting is a good album. Angst Heavy Pop with at least some excellent singles with classic Bad 80's Haircuts and clothes. "Pale Shelter" is one of the finest singles of The Early 80's to me despite the crap video.
As for Songs..., at least there was "Mother's Talk," possibly the next-to-last really good Tears for Fears single, with "Shout" being the logical way to promote the album and a fine song. "Everybody..." was well-fitting for 1985's start up of it's Top 40 radio going slick, but after so many plays, it did get very worrying.
The Roland-only years to me were an attempt to change some things around, and I sometimes hate to admit that "Break It Down Again" was not a bad although still over-produced start, but it's obvious that what should have been solo albums were branded with the familiar name for the only reason they could be.
I don't think I've heard any of Curt's solo attempts.
I think they had a reunion album..,have to hear some of it.
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Passing_Stranger
The Jet Set
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Posted - 03/14/2012 : 15:58:58
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DJ Craig, I absolutely and wholeheartedly sgree with you - just what I feel about them. A hugely overrated abdn with only one good album and a bunch of decent singles. How thay became so successful is beyond me.
Screen 13, your writing style is very good - please do more of it And re: TFF reunion album - please save your time, it's just like those Beatles retreads but absolutely uninspired and dull. |
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q89747
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 03/14/2012 : 17:19:41
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Originally posted by Screen 13
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[i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
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By the time "The Seeds Of Love" album came out in 89, Orzabal and Smith were reduced to what amounts to Beatles parody. Their music now a painful reminder that the excitement of the 80s was over.
DJ Craig
For some odd reason, to me "Sowing the Seeds of Love" is to The 80's what Oasis' "All Around the World" was to The 90's - Epic over-inflated Beatles-style anthems that were overproduced and over-long with over-indulgent videos. Well, at least Liam Gallagher's attitude-driven voice saved "All Around the World" from being an MOR fixture, but that's just my opinion. It's odd to bring up two different bands, but when the similarities between songs are that strong, I have to mention it.
"Sowing" sounded like that it was aiming for "Sgt. Pepper" style achievement but forgot the humor and restraint that The Beatles had along the way. The over-ambition that plagued the Late 80's Tears for Fears ruined it for me.
Still, with that in mind, I have to agree that The Hurting is a good album. Angst Heavy Pop with at least some excellent singles with classic Bad 80's Haircuts and clothes. "Pale Shelter" is one of the finest singles of The Early 80's to me despite the crap video.
As for Songs..., at least there was "Mother's Talk," possibly the next-to-last really good Tears for Fears single, with "Shout" being the logical way to promote the album and a fine song. "Everybody..." was well-fitting for 1985's start up of it's Top 40 radio going slick, but after so many plays, it did get very worrying.
The Roland-only years to me were an attempt to change some things around, and I sometimes hate to admit that "Break It Down Again" was not a bad although still over-produced start, but it's obvious that what should have been solo albums were branded with the familiar name for the only reason they could be.
I don't think I've heard any of Curt's solo attempts.
I think they had a reunion album..,have to hear some of it.
The Hurting is a decent album, and those three songs you quote are undoubtedly the standouts.
I like some of the songs on SFTBC, including 'Head Over Heels' and 'Mothers Talk'. Yes they were overplayed, but don't hold that against them. Although I never need hear 'EWTRTW' again in my life. In retrospect the production is typical 80s bloat (thought it was hearing this album that Depeche Mode hooked up with Dave Bascombe to make MFTM, which is in my opinion the best-produced DM album).
I agree that the chorus to 'The Seeds of Love' has a cheesy, descending-bassline chorus that could be qualified as quasi-Beatlesy. But the verses I think are intriguing.
As for Oasis, they achieved MOR dreck as early as 'Wonderwall'. |
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TragicMagic
Room at the Top
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Posted - 03/14/2012 : 19:21:00
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.. I've always kinda liked TFF. But don't let the others know.. Shhhhh! 
I don't mind the song Sowing the Seeds either.... sure it was a bit of a different direction, but I think the song is quite well constructed.
Saw TFF live in 2010 - they were awesome. Sounded great. |
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Screen 13
Take On Me
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Posted - 03/14/2012 : 19:28:04
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Originally posted by q89747
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Originally posted by Screen 13
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[i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
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By the time "The Seeds Of Love" album came out in 89, Orzabal and Smith were reduced to what amounts to Beatles parody. Their music now a painful reminder that the excitement of the 80s was over.
DJ Craig
For some odd reason, to me "Sowing the Seeds of Love" is to The 80's what Oasis' "All Around the World" was to The 90's - Epic over-inflated Beatles-style anthems that were overproduced and over-long with over-indulgent videos. Well, at least Liam Gallagher's attitude-driven voice saved "All Around the World" from being an MOR fixture, but that's just my opinion. It's odd to bring up two different bands, but when the similarities between songs are that strong, I have to mention it.
"Sowing" sounded like that it was aiming for "Sgt. Pepper" style achievement but forgot the humor and restraint that The Beatles had along the way. The over-ambition that plagued the Late 80's Tears for Fears ruined it for me.
Still, with that in mind, I have to agree that The Hurting is a good album. Angst Heavy Pop with at least some excellent singles with classic Bad 80's Haircuts and clothes. "Pale Shelter" is one of the finest singles of The Early 80's to me despite the crap video.
As for Songs..., at least there was "Mother's Talk," possibly the next-to-last really good Tears for Fears single, with "Shout" being the logical way to promote the album and a fine song. "Everybody..." was well-fitting for 1985's start up of it's Top 40 radio going slick, but after so many plays, it did get very worrying.
The Roland-only years to me were an attempt to change some things around, and I sometimes hate to admit that "Break It Down Again" was not a bad although still over-produced start, but it's obvious that what should have been solo albums were branded with the familiar name for the only reason they could be.
I don't think I've heard any of Curt's solo attempts.
I think they had a reunion album..,have to hear some of it.
The Hurting is a decent album, and those three songs you quote are undoubtedly the standouts.
I like some of the songs on SFTBC, including 'Head Over Heels' and 'Mothers Talk'. Yes they were overplayed, but don't hold that against them. Although I never need hear 'EWTRTW' again in my life. In retrospect the production is typical 80s bloat (thought it was hearing this album that Depeche Mode hooked up with Dave Bascombe to make MFTM, which is in my opinion the best-produced DM album).
I agree that the chorus to 'The Seeds of Love' has a cheesy, descending-bassline chorus that could be qualified as quasi-Beatlesy. But the verses I think are intriguing.
As for Oasis, they achieved MOR dreck as early as 'Wonderwall'.
I agree, but I was just only thinking about the slight similarities between the two songs. As for "Wonderwall," Oasis' mega-hit after a storming debut album and singles, there was anything to really complain about...but that's another story. |
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Riverman
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 08:43:22
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I want to smack anyone hear who compares TFF to Oasis.
The Hurting is a masterpiece that could never be followed by The Hurting 2. "Songs" is such a great album! Shit! What would you rather hear in 1985? Ebn-Ozn?
It's called evolution, folks. Oasis is De-Evolution. Get it?
Plus, TFF were in so much debt after the hurting that they had to play the game. I thought it was wonderful. But then again, I'm a Chameleons fan too. |
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Passing_Stranger
The Jet Set
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 13:12:08
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Plus, TFF were in so much debt after the hurting that they had to play the game...
Really? The Hurting was a fantastically successful album, a No. 1 in the UK and even charting in US. Where did the debt come from? |
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Screen 13
Take On Me
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 14:22:26
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I want to smack anyone hear who compares TFF to Oasis.
The Hurting is a masterpiece that could never be followed by The Hurting 2. "Songs" is such a great album! Shit! What would you rather hear in 1985? Ebn-Ozn?
It's called evolution, folks. Oasis is De-Evolution. Get it?
Plus, TFF were in so much debt after the hurting that they had to play the game. I thought it was wonderful. But then again, I'm a Chameleons fan too.
It was just one song in comparison to another, not an entire recorded output. To me, "Sowing" and "All Around..." had the same Beatles- influenced over-production and bloat along with over-produced videos to match. Mind, Tears for Fears were trying to expand on their sound more with what they were doing and Oasis were just trying to do some kind of "Hey Jude" for the 90's, but both songs still achieved the same effect for me as a listener. I always view Oasis as just another Rock band who have a way of using (or ripping off as some may say) their influences, nothing too spectacular despite the occasional great song and having an attitude (I'm still interested in listening to Noel's solo work), but to me there was a similarity between one epic to another that reflected both bands over-reaching their goals.
I did say that The Hurting was a good album, and if I'm pressed to make a list of successful iconic albums of the Early 80's Pop scene, then that might be in my list - a perfect album for those in the Synth Pop scene who wanted a soundtrack to their more moody days. There was some ambition, but also a restraint that kept things in check, never letting the angst take over the music's effect. Tasteful, using their influences well without never being too obvious (Hear "Sowing the Seeds..." and it was way too obvious by then), and actually creating a mood throughout.
It was logical that Songs From the Big Chair was made the way it was after an under-achieving single ("The Way You Are"), and to their credit they tried and for at least a couple of albums commercially succeeded. Still, in the end, it wound up a little too over-baked in my opinion, although points for the ambition.
Actually, The Chameleons are a damn good band in my view as well - now their music I can get into. They never did wrong in my opinion.
Sorry for the many edits, but I did want to make a few things and opinions noted. |
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Surly
Room at the Top
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Posted - 03/15/2012 : 17:29:19
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I love TFF, too, probably as much as The Thompson Twins.
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pellerman
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 02:44:29
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Well, well, it must be the season to bash all the bands that "made it".
Can't say that I've heard most of the songs on "Songs From the Big Chair", but it seems to me that the lyrics of "Shout" and "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" had something to say on more than just a superficial level. You can't really say that about most 80's new wave. The music wasn't bad either. Same can be said for "Sowing the Seeds of Love".
Anyone a member of a band that didn't make it anywhere and full of raging resentment? |
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Riverman
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 10:39:52
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Originally posted by Riverman
I want to smack anyone hear who compares TFF to Oasis.
The Hurting is a masterpiece that could never be followed by The Hurting 2. "Songs" is such a great album! Shit! What would you rather hear in 1985? Ebn-Ozn?
It's called evolution, folks. Oasis is De-Evolution. Get it?
Plus, TFF were in so much debt after the hurting that they had to play the game. I thought it was wonderful. But then again, I'm a Chameleons fan too.
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Riverman
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 10:46:50
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Originally posted by Riverman
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Originally posted by Riverman
I want to smack anyone hear who compares TFF to Oasis.
The Hurting is a masterpiece that could never be followed by The Hurting 2. "Songs" is such a great album! Shit! What would you rather hear in 1985? Ebn-Ozn?
It's called evolution, folks. Oasis is De-Evolution. Get it?
Plus, TFF were in so much debt after the hurting that they had to play the game. I thought it was wonderful. But then again, I'm a Chameleons fan too.
Damn i went overboard, haha! Actually, i think the hurting really put them back $ wise in production costs. I read that years ago. If anyone has not heard Big Chair, The Working Hour is amazing! Same with I Believe. Agreed about "sowing" and the beatles. No comparison there! Oasis were the worst band i ever saw in my life.I think the band and the 200 people at the gig were having a staring contest!
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Surly
Room at the Top
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 11:41:12
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Anyone a member of a band that didn't make it anywhere and full of raging resentment?
Anyone here a member of the Steve Hoffman forums? It's a great site for music nerds. I bring this up because I did see a guy posting on there (a while back) who had some major label interest in the early '80s, but he passed on it because he claims they wanted to "force" him to use '80s sounds/production techniques that were rampant at the time. Needless to say, he didn't seem to get anywhere, and now, carries a lot of resentment for the industry. I don't know his whole story, so I'm certainly not knocking him, but I know there are many of these types of "stories" out there. Makes me wonder what was really asked of him, if what he wanted to do was so different, would what the labels wanted have actually watered down his sound, etc.
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InvisibleMan
Room at the Top
USA
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Posted - 03/17/2012 : 08:10:52
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[i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
[br]After initially putting out some compelling songs on "The Hurting" album ("Mad World", "Change", "Pale Shelter"), the duo's music quickly devolved into easy listening, radio friendly schlock.
Mad World wasn't "radio-friendly"? |
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djcraig
Room at the Top
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Posted - 03/17/2012 : 11:09:53
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Originally posted by InvisibleMan
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[i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
[br]After initially putting out some compelling songs on "The Hurting" album ("Mad World", "Change", "Pale Shelter"), the duo's music quickly devolved into easy listening, radio friendly schlock.
Mad World wasn't "radio-friendly"?
In the conservative world of Top 40 programming, this song never saw the light of day... in the US anyway. And it was too "alternative" for the mainstream rock stations to touch.
Anybody remember hearing this back in the day outside of alt/punk stations like KROQ?
We considered it a victory when something as "risky" as Culture Club broke through to Hit radio- LOL!
DJ Craig
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empyrean
Room at the Top
Canada
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Posted - 03/19/2012 : 21:40:18
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TFF is considered one of the new wave gods in our country. The first video is aw of them is The Way You Are and immediately caught my attention. Got their first 2 albums and yes, The Hurting is their best with songs like Suffer The Children and Ideas As Opiates. Mad World is overplayed here.
Songs From The Big Chair is more commercial. Shout is annoying to my ears now having heard them a thousand times. So is Head Over Heels. But The Working Hour is a Masterpiece.
Never bought The Seeds Of Love because to me they are getting Pop. But i knda admit i like Woman In Chains.
Bought Roland's solo and love Goodnight Song but thats it. Dissapointed somewhat. But still, at least in our country, they are pioneers in New Wave scene here.
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bigwavedave
Room at the Top
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 20:43:58
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Both The Hurting and Seeds Of Love have great deep album tracks.
For example, "Start Of The Breakdown" on The Hurting is one of their very best, and side two of "Sowing..." sounds nothing like the gimmicky title track and is actually quite good. |
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AstroZon
Running Up That Hill
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 09:42:47
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Songs From the Big Chair is an excellent album. I know that it gets played now on demographically programmed FM radio (where it really doesn't fit IMO,) but it was quite the cutting edge new wave album when it came out.
As for The Seeds of Love, I think you have to understand Orzabal to know why he didn't take the easy path and do Song From the Big Chair II. He's an excellent musician and songwriter but has to move in challenging directions to be creative (rather like Miles Davis.) Seeds of Love is an excellent album with a huge soundstage and overt homages to the Beatles and Motown - but its not new wave.
Still, it was released in 1989 and new wave had already run its course. I think that it's also telling that it became popular again 10 years after its release. |
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morgan1098
Switchin' to Glide
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 07:06:02
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Big TFF fan here. As someone else said, the "Seeds of Love" album has a ton of great deep tracks. I'd say it's their best album by far, but I agree that the first single quickly gets annoying. But the other singles, "Woman in Chains," "Advice for the Young at Heart" and "Famous Last Words" are top notch. Good b-sides from that era, too.
Actually, I'd say the three-album arc from "Seeds of Love" to "Elemental" to "Raoul and the Kings of Spain" is TFF at its peak. So yeah, I'm more of a Roland fan than a Curt fan, since Curt was only marginally involved with one of those albums. Roland's solo album "Tomcats Screaming Outside" has some good moments as well. |
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uofsc93
Take On Me
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Posted - 04/06/2012 : 18:26:46
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Totally disagree on TFF- but actually feel the same about Thompson Twins (sp) Doctor Doctor? Yeesh and they had such great early synth pop songs -bonus points for sampling themselves on Love On Your Side.
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[i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
[br]After initially putting out some compelling songs on "The Hurting" album ("Mad World", "Change", "Pale Shelter"), the duo's music quickly devolved into easy listening, radio friendly schlock.
The follow up album, "Songs from the Big Chair", featured "Everybody Wants to Rule the World"- a big hit on Adult Contemporary radio. It fit right in the playlist between The Pointer Sisters and Kenny Rogers. The grating video from "Head Over Heels" was played ad nauseum on MTV, to the point of exhaustion. Nothing on the album approached the promise of their previous material.
By the time "The Seeds Of Love" album came out in 89, Orzabal and Smith were reduced to what amounts to Beatles parody. Their music now a painful reminder that the excitement of the 80s was over.
I can still listen to the early stuff but if "Head Over Heels" comes on I go into anaphylactic shock.
DJ Craig
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DougMash
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Posted - 04/07/2012 : 19:55:34
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Frank_Chickens
Room at the Top
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 04:13:51
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Originally posted by DougMash
Wait, you did a whole datribe on Tears for Fears and didn't mention the grating overplayed mess known as "Shout" once?
The only good thing to say about 'Shout' is that it's not the dreary 'Everybody Wants To Run The World'. |
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djcraig
Room at the Top
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 08:50:24
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Originally posted by DougMash
Wait, you did a whole datribe on Tears for Fears and didn't mention the grating overplayed mess known as "Shout" once?
As if we needed any more evidence of TFFs crimes against music. I had any memory of that song surgically removed from my hippocampus long ago but thanks for reminding me.
DJ Craig
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WoodlandParkPunk
Room at the Top
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 14:39:46
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NEVER heard of TFF until I saw them on MTV. I am pretty sure a lot of Americans had the same exposure to them. Love all the radio stuff.
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BigManRestless
The Jet Set
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Posted - 04/13/2012 : 01:17:15
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The Hurting was much more to my taste than Songs From The Big Chair, but for such a "commercial" album, it still has some experimental edge (Broken and Listen most obviously).
I never cared for the Seeds Of Love album at the time, and still find it pretty unlistenable now
But I'd agree with morgan1098 - the Elemental album is incredibly good, easily my second favourite behind The Hurting. |
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simonsghost
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SonicBoom
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Posted - 06/15/2012 : 22:30:26
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The Hurting remains their very best but still there's not many bad things that one can say about TFF. Maybe they didn't impress new wave fans the same way as Depeche Mode, Cure, Human League etc. but they were just as good in terms of songwriting. The Seeds Of Love was an interesting sound for them IMO. Solo offerings like Laid So Low, Elemental, Fish Out Of Water, and Break It Down reminded me of classic TFF. As for the hit songs off SFTBC, I still enjoy them but only in small doses. Overall a good band.
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Doctor Doctor
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 15:15:57
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Complete bollocks. Plenty of good stuff on all of their albums.
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djcraig
Room at the Top
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 09:39:38
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Complete bollocks. Plenty of good stuff on all of their albums.
Quite the erudite argument. The precipitous drop in quality from TFFs breakthrough album is evident to many here. As is the nagging embarrassment we feel when realizing how actually lame what we were once convinced was cool, their later music was.
There is certainly room for some subjective disagreement about their later albums. But I think it would be foolish to suggest that any of their post 1983 work came close to eclipsing "The Hurting".
For me I can't help but wonder how a band that turned out such a shiny jewel could then go on to drop so many stinky turds.
DJ Craig
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neon surfer
Switchin' to Glide
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Posted - 06/20/2012 : 00:45:22
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eh, Mad world was on american top 40 with kasey kassem for weeks on end and yeah kroq played it to death too. A ton of risque songs made american top 40, one somewhat controversial one called "Sex" by Berlin as well. I think Sex may have made top 10 or 20 at one point. Heard that fucker when i'd travel for at least 2 months.
For those that don't remember, "American top 40" was a show on stations all over the u.s. and they did play a ton of synth stuff back in the 80s as that was the style for most of the 80s.
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Originally posted by InvisibleMan
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[i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
[br]After initially putting out some compelling songs on "The Hurting" album ("Mad World", "Change", "Pale Shelter"), the duo's music quickly devolved into easy listening, radio friendly schlock.
Mad World wasn't "radio-friendly"?
In the conservative world of Top 40 programming, this song never saw the light of day... in the US anyway. And it was too "alternative" for the mainstream rock stations to touch.
Anybody remember hearing this back in the day outside of alt/punk stations like KROQ?
We considered it a victory when something as "risky" as Culture Club broke through to Hit radio- LOL!
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neon surfer
Switchin' to Glide
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Posted - 06/20/2012 : 00:53:21
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The thing about the 80s synth/wave bands was that when a band became pc or had some incredibly pointless song like "women in chains" anti-slavery(?) song(or whatever the fuck it was), they lost all credibility. Nowadays that's all major labels churn out. Shit-hop, corporate down syndrome fuckcrap.
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DJ Phoenix
Room at the Top
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Posted - 06/20/2012 : 22:46:24
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Originally posted by neon surfer
The thing about the 80s synth/wave bands was that when a band became pc or had some incredibly pointless song like "women in chains" anti-slavery(?) song(or whatever the fuck it was), they lost all credibility. Nowadays that's all major labels churn out. Shit-hop, corporate down syndrome fuckcrap.
Lol, Fuckcrap will probably be some new genre/subgenre of music, watch.
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neon surfer
Switchin' to Glide
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Posted - 06/21/2012 : 05:24:17
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haha
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Originally posted by neon surfer
The thing about the 80s synth/wave bands was that when a band became pc or had some incredibly pointless song like "women in chains" anti-slavery(?) song(or whatever the fuck it was), they lost all credibility. Nowadays that's all major labels churn out. Shit-hop, corporate down syndrome fuckcrap.
Lol, Fuckcrap will probably be some new genre/subgenre of music, watch.
"Keepin the '80s alive!"
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