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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
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 Posted - 08/25/2005 : 08:17:36
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Originally posted by Bindyree
This song has also wrapped its tentacles around me and is slowly sucking out my nutrients.
I don't remember where I saw this, but did I see somebody suggest that it was done by a band called 'Story Structure'?
Arrghgh!...
Brin-Marie McLaughlin
http://bindyree.diaryland.com
Story Structure was a diferent song. http://spiritofradio.ca/SongComments.asp?SongID=297 |
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Frayo
Room at the Top
USA
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jumpshift
Room at the Top
USA
636 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2005 : 18:44:12
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I can't stop thinking about that song. It's beautiful. Sure hope someone is able to figure it out someday.
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jumpshift
Room at the Top
USA
636 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2005 : 00:31:00
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I too, have become obsessed with this song. And that swimming pool song. They both do sound like icehouse. Has anyone figured out yet whether it's that one band "Modern Vision". Just wondering.
After reading about Dagaband, I don't really expect that it's them.
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
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jumpshift
Room at the Top
USA
636 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2005 : 01:25:16
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Really doubt that it's Spandau Ballet. Much more dark. But I think maybe we're getting somewhere.
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2005 : 08:53:40
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It was suggested to me that this song is "probably" The Immaculate Fools, but I dont know anything about them.
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BadWolf
Running Up That Hill
USA
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 01:53:05
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
1363 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2005 : 08:09:16
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Originally posted by BadWolf
Arghhhh ..... now I am so curious after listening to it .. this is going to keep me up!
yeah, welcome aboard...this has been one of my favorite threads to watch since I've been here...listening to this for the 3000th time this just jumped in my brain....does anybody think this might be some weird Sal Solo thing beyond Classix Nouveau??????
I would think not because if it was somebody would have heard it but the voice has the same kind of style as his...
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cassfrank
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 16:18:52
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I asked Sal Solo. He said he's never heard of it. Anyone follow up on whether it's the Lost Patrol? Or was it decided that they were punk?
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2005 : 17:41:01
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I think they were ruled out because it sounds nothing like them...never heard them myself so I couldnt tell you. I havent heard any responses to The Immaculate Fools. Someone on another message board was sure it had to be them due to the singer's voice but I cant seem to even get a sample of them to compare voices myself. Im thinking they are too popular of a band for it to be them but I'd still like to definitely rule them out.
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 18:10:30
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| Crimsor, check your inbox, I just sent you an Immaculate Fools track I got off Limewire...the vocal sound is pretty much the same and the patterns are close, but I don't know...the 'Stay' track's singer just sounds deeper and a bit throatier...what do you think? |
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2005 : 18:21:29
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Originally posted by waukena
Crimsor, check your inbox, I just sent you an Immaculate Fools track I got off Limewire...the vocal sound is pretty much the same and the patterns are close, but I don't know...the 'Stay' track's singer just sounds deeper and a bit throatier...what do you think?
Thanks for that. The music and overall style definitely sounds like the same band but I just dont think the voices match. As you said, the "Stay" guy's voice is a lot higher where this guy's sounds almost identical to Richard Butler. I guess we can probably rule them out but not completely. This may require a chart 
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 19:40:49
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Originally posted by cassfrank
I asked Sal Solo. He said he's never heard of it.
I don't know how this got past me...you asked Sal Solo?????
Isn't he doing Christian music these days?
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2005 : 20:43:58
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Originally posted by waukena
quote:
Originally posted by cassfrank
I asked Sal Solo. He said he's never heard of it.
I don't know how this got past me...you asked Sal Solo?????
Isn't he doing Christian music these days?
How did you have the occasion to ask?
Talk about surprised. For about a year now I was under the impression that Sal Solo had died, for some reason. Now I have to figure out where the hell I heard that or who I confused him with. I could swear I read it on a Classix Nouveaux fansite. Weird!
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2005 : 21:25:46
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That Modern Vision thing seemed to be it. Someone claimed it sounded like that band, then we see they had a song called Stay around that time. I know blackrhythm.com claimed it wasnt it, but I wonder about that. The weirder thing is the week that record was found on three different websites, they were all sold. Yet noone here claimed to buy it and listen to it. Thats the weirdest thing of all. Now I cant find it anywhere!
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cassfrank
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 11/01/2005 : 21:45:49
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Sal Solo has a website. He is indeed playing Christian music these days. I just emailed him this afternoon and sent him a sample of the song. He said, "never heard it before."
As far as the Immaculate Fools. This is from allmusic and the description seems really different than the Stay track.
"The British band the Immaculate Fools became so popular in Spain that they eventually moved there. Formed in London, England, in 1984, the Immaculate Fools was comprised of Kevin Weatherill (lead vocals, acoustic guitar, harmonica, bass), Paul Weatherill (acoustic bass, backing vocals, percussion), Brian Betts (acoustic guitar, slide guitar, percussion, mandolin), and Barry Wickens (violin, dulcimer, acoustic guitar, accordion). Although the group landed on the charts in Britain, their hybrid of Celtic music, folk, and alternative rock found even more success in Spain and Germany. In 1987, their LP Dumb Poet was released in America by A&M Records and the Psychedelic Furs-esque track "Tragic Comedy" was a minor hit on college radio. The band toured with Bob Dylan, Iggy Pop, Simple Minds, the Stranglers, and the Rolling Stones; however, they grew tired of the English music scene in the late '80s and relocated to Spain, where they were superstars. In 1997, the Immaculate Fools broke up after Weatherill departed from the group. Calling himself Dirty Ray, Weatherill abandoned the Immaculate Fools' Celtic touches for gritty blues on his solo debut Primitive. Influenced by John Lee Hooker, Howlin' Wolf, Tom Waits, and Nick Cave, Weatherill recorded the album with Simon Anderson (percussion) and Rainy Moor (electric organ)."
I really like the Modern Vision connection. Their other albums and tracks that I've seen for sale are titled things like Dance of Folly (1987) and I don't Recognize Myself (1986). Those just seem like titles the band behind Stay (listen to the goofy lyrics) would enjoy.
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
6270 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 07:43:50
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Originally posted by Crimsor
That Modern Vision thing seemed to be it. Someone claimed it sounded like that band, then we see they had a song called Stay around that time. I know blackrhythm.com claimed it wasnt it, but I wonder about that. The weirder thing is the week that record was found on three different websites, they were all sold. Yet noone here claimed to buy it and listen to it. Thats the weirdest thing of all. Now I cant find it anywhere!
Yeah, that was kind of odd. I should have just bought the damn thing and never posted the links. Oh well, live and learn. And boycott Black Rhythm Records. Assholes. |
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eight6
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 08:34:41
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Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors
quote:
Originally posted by Crimsor
That Modern Vision thing seemed to be it. Someone claimed it sounded like that band, then we see they had a song called Stay around that time. I know blackrhythm.com claimed it wasnt it, but I wonder about that. The weirder thing is the week that record was found on three different websites, they were all sold. Yet noone here claimed to buy it and listen to it. Thats the weirdest thing of all. Now I cant find it anywhere!
Yeah, that was kind of odd. I should have just bought the damn thing and never posted the links. Oh well, live and learn. And boycott Black Rhythm Records. Assholes.
Buying on a hunch is always risky Motors, even if it is only a few bucks...I have a basement full of risks that I shouldn't have taken. It really gives you a perspective on the number of groups and amount of music that is out there.
Based on everything I've read about this song, I'd say that Modern Vision is an excellent candidate for the mystery group. Most of Rene's posts were from German and European stations and being from Belgium puts them in the right place, and 86-87 is also the right time.
It would be nice to see this one put to rest.
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
1363 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 09:00:46
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This from cassfrank in another thread...(why another thread)?
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[i]Originally posted by cassfrank[/i]
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Well, I might be a bit hasty but I really think we got it here.
I did some serious detective work and managed to track down contact information for the band, Modern Vision. They are Belgian, recorded an album and a few singles between 1985-1987. They played at festivals in Europe and had some airplay. They broke up in 1987 and formed another band and then yet another. I contacted a band member named Chris and he tells me that indeed, Stay (Second Time Around) --not the actual title, it's just "Stay" -- was the 7" that has appeared at places like Gemm.
I sent Chris the mp3 sample. I hope to hear from him tonight and perhaps we'll have this mystery finally, officially solved.
If it is, thanks should really go to Somebody Somewhere's DJ friend who pegged it in July. The full album is at Gemm now. If this is the band I'm sure it'll sell like hotcakes.
Cheers!
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cassfrank
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 09:42:29
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Eating my shoe as we speak. I recommend boiling it and then a little tabasco and salt.
So, Modern Vision is out. I sent the MP3 to the band member and he said that it wasn't the song. Sorry, folks. I jumped the gun on that one.
The good news is, no one needs to rush out a buy that Stay 7".
I wonder however, if it's at all possible that there is another band called Modern Vision? (That's probably a given.) But from Belgium? (Two of the same.) I'll ask the band member some more questions about it.
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
1363 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 11:39:12
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Originally posted by cassfrank
Eating my shoe as we speak. I recommend boiling it and then a little tabasco and salt.
Absolutely no reason to eat the shoe...in the last 2 days you've gotten ahold of 2 possible candidates...this is the mystery of the great pyramids, NWO style...
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Originally posted by cassfrank
Damn.
Ditto
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eight6
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 11:42:19
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Originally posted by waukena
quote:
Originally posted by cassfrank
Eating my shoe as we speak. I recommend boiling it and then a little tabasco and salt.
Absolutely no reason to eat the shoe...in the last 2 days you've gotten ahold of 2 possible candidates...this is the mystery of the great pyramids, NWO style...
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Originally posted by cassfrank
Damn.
Ditto
I'm used to this by now...It's going on 3 years for this song.
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schwenko
Room at the Top
USA
4516 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 12:00:05
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Panorama
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 12:32:32
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Just wanted to say thank you to all the people still trying to solve the mystery of "Stay (The Second Time Around)" and hope that it will be figured out in the near future... my fingers are crossed (which makes typing tough :-)
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eight6
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 14:16:25
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Maybe we need to impose on Ecki Stieg of Radio FFN in Germany again. After all, he did solve the Eskimos & Egypt song a couple of years ago, and the was at least as long a search as this one. I would guess that Rene would have probably asked Ecki, but he didn't remember Screams and Whispers (what a great song!!) right away. It only hit him after he looked at some old playlists one day.
Anyone know how to reach Ecki?
*edit* I was able to locate an e-mail address for Ecki and have forwarded the clip to him. Hopefully, he receives the e-mail...apparently his radio FFN show was recently cancelled.
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eight6
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 05:59:41
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Well, Ecki is the newest member of the "Who does that damn song" club. He doesn't know the group/title. I'm impressed with how quickly he got back to me though.
The search continues....
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cassfrank
Personal Jesus
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 08:46:09
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More from the Belgian Modern Vision band member. They were the only band in Belgium under that name from 1984 -1987. They recorded the "Folly" album on Touch records. Had a few singles, all of which are on Gemm now. They are the same Modern Vision listed on the gig list of the Poesie Noir site. They broke up in 1987 and then became Lonely in the Crowd and finally, today, a rock cover band called, The Crowd. He doesn't know who sang "Stay." |
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2005 : 09:11:16
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quote:
Originally posted by cassfrank
More from the Belgian Modern Vision band member. They were the only band in Belgium under that name from 1984 -1987. They recorded the "Folly" album on Touch records. Had a few singles, all of which are on Gemm now. They are the same Modern Vision listed on the gig list of the Poesie Noir site. They broke up in 1987 and then became Lonely in the Crowd and finally, today, a rock cover band called, The Crowd. He doesn't know who sang "Stay."
Thats funny because I kept seeing a Belgian rock websiet with a listing of The Crowd that said (formerly Modern Vision) but I didnt htink it would be the same band.
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the-verve
Running Up That Hill
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 12:56:07
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Hi all,
This mystery is fascinating! I stumbled upon it by accident and like many others, got caught up in it, caused my to register to post this.
I was wondering if anyone has sent this to any of the mp3 blogs that specialize in 80's type music like this. Some of them get decent traffic and maybe some new ears exposed to this might help?
I was thinking of ones such as http://siart.blogspot.com/ , (Silence is a rhythm too) or http://lostinthe80s.blogspot.com/ . (lost in the 80's)?
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 16:55:47
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schwenko
Room at the Top
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 19:13:04
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Originally posted by waukena
so at this point, who's the leading candidate? Is there one?
Probably The Ramones.
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MarekMM
Take On Me
Estonia
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 02:19:13
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It's definitely not "Stay With me" by Canton.I know this song.
Marek
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 06:34:07
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Originally posted by schwenko
quote:
Originally posted by waukena
so at this point, who's the leading candidate? Is there one?
Probably The Ramones.
Sure, torment me across threads...you're cold, cold man...
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eight6
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 07:34:42
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Originally posted by Crimsor
Not Ruled out (Yet)
Jet (eighties band, not the current hipsters)
Cheating Ace (1985)
OK, I ordered the Jet lp titled Second Time Around from the vendor who had it on GEMM. Based on his rating, I may not ever see the lp, but if it does come, we can cross it off the list, or rejoice. (That is, if I decide to tell the rest of you!) You can never have enough frisbees.
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cassfrank
Personal Jesus
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eight6
Room at the Top
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
6270 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2005 : 10:43:26
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eight6
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 11:32:45
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Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors
We can also definitely rule out Skope and The Tiny. I dl'ed both from soulseek and neither of them was the right song.
I had them in my d/l list...I guess I can cut them.
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 11:36:26
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Originally posted by eight6
quote:
Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors
We can also definitely rule out Skope and The Tiny. I dl'ed both from soulseek and neither of them was the right song.
I had them in my d/l list...I guess I can cut them.
Unless you need a couple of songs that REALLY suck.
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schwenko
Room at the Top
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i_like_lectric_motors
Room at the Top
Vatican City
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
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Crimsor
Personal Jesus
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2005 : 12:44:53
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EDIT:
Here is a list of what was suggested (either on NWO, Rene's or Spirit of Radio) and ruled out as well as some of the suggestions that, while not very likely, were not totally eliminated. There are a lot of other songs called Stay and Second Time Around, but some are obviously not the same song (Shalamar).
Im pretty sure, anything on allmusic.com cam be ruled out, unless they add it after tonight but I could be wrong as I started to go blind after awhile. Ive searched through that site 3 different times though.
Stay Second Time Around
Ruled Out
Modern Vision
Romance at Eleven
Aldo Nova
The Blue Nile
Grace Pool
Lions and Ghosts
Stone Fury
Andre Cymone
Cham CM
Ghost
The Controllers
Canton
The Tiny
Skope
Tonio K
Tiger Lou
The Dream Team
Not Ruled out (Yet)
Jet (eighties band, not the current hipsters)
Cheating Ace (1985)
Dagaband
Above is an updated list. I forgot the Tonio K song at first but Im pretty sure I eliminated that one awhile ago. I can't remember where I saw the Cheating Ace song. I just emailed a member of the band whose website claims to have former members of Cheating Ace with the link. Hopefully he'll answer me. The only other thing I found about Cheating Ace was a website claiming they were a band during the 80s at some guy's high school and that they all wore pastel pink shorts because they dug Miami Vice.
Dagaband is most likely out as well.
I was just thinking how interesting it is that this band recorded this song and has no idea that all these people are going crazy trying to identify it. Im wondering if we cant find the lyrics because they are not online (obviously) or any mention of it because the song isnt called Stay OR Second Time Around! Just a thought!
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Panorama
Room at the Top
USA
2689 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2005 : 13:06:45
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Originally posted by Crimsor
I was just thinking how interesting it is that this band recorded this song and has no idea that all these people are going crazy trying to identify it. I'm wondering if we cant find the lyrics because they are not online (obviously) or any mention of it because the song isnt called Stay OR Second Time Around! Just a thought!
That's a thought -- it might be called "listen to my heart go, don't go"
though I doubt it as well and still believe it's called "Stay (The Second Time Around)" which seems so obvious.
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geoffolehane
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 19:40:16
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If someone does figure it out...maybe the band that recorded it might get a small royalties check...because several dozen NWO members will probably go out and buy it.
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
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Posted - 11/04/2005 : 20:55:25
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Originally posted by geoffolehane
If someone does figure it out...maybe the band that recorded it might get a small royalties check...because several dozen NWO members will probably go out and buy it.
If that's the case we should all get $1 from that check...although, I've been watching this for 8 months, it's been one of my favorite threads. I never posted to it till last week when i thought I might have figured it out...um...NO... So eight6 and tha_farfetch and MikeP and Dan and, hell...a whole bunch of people who have vanished deserve a cut more than me...I'll take a shiny new dime and a copy off the hub...my current hopes lie with the hipster quipster from Toronto... |
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SomebodySomewhere
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/05/2005 : 00:44:09
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Originally posted by Dan Coogan
That's a thought -- it might be called "listen to my heart go, don't go"
though I doubt it as well and still believe it's called "Stay (The Second Time Around)" which seems so obvious.
While riding home in my car, I heard this song on the radio that I was sure was called "Haunting You." It seemed so obvious, because it was repeated in the chorus four times. I go home and look up the lyrics on the net to find out who does it. It turns out it's not called "Haunting You." It's called "Bug Eyes"... two words which not only don't appear anywhere in the lyrics, I can't even figure out how they have any relation TO the lyrics.
But then that's terrible bands like Dredg (or as I call them, Sludg) for you. Musical artists with actual talent tend to title their songs after the lyrical hook. Or at least are legendary enough like Nirvana and Bob Dylan to get away with it.
But back to this song -- we're working on it. I'm going to find out what it is or die trying. |
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schwenko
Room at the Top
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Posted - 11/05/2005 : 04:02:44
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waukena
Room at the Top
Burundi
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Posted - 11/09/2005 : 08:08:50
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Originally posted by eight6
OK, I ordered the Jet lp titled Second Time Around from the vendor who had it on GEMM. Based on his rating, I may not ever see the lp, but if it does come, we can cross it off the list, or rejoice.
anything yet? |
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