We MUST win...

[savethewave]

I am listening to the news on my XM radio, and it seems that a reporter wrote that an interrogator at Guantanimo Bay, Cuba flushed a copy of the Koran down a toilet. This started a series of very violent, anti-American demonstrations in the entire Muslim world, from Egypt to Indonesia.

This is because a holy book was allegedly flushed down a toilet. This report has since been retracted as wrong. It doesn't matter, though, as the damage was done. People worldwide are calling for a holy war against the USA over this.

I think about the reaction in the Judeo-Christian world if word got out that Muslim interrogators had thrown a Bible or Torah into a toilet. I cannot imagine worldwide demonstrations by Catholics, Protestants, and Jews, calling for a holy war against the Muslims. We don't even get that outraged when civilian prisoners' heads are sawn off on video. We should be galvanized to fight to the death over this, to destroy them, plow their bones into the earth, and sow salt so nothing will ever grow there again. But no, our passions are spent as we argue whether or not a little boy should be returned to his father in Cuba, or we are holding vigil over a brain-dead woman who had her feeding tube pulled. I am using hyperbole for the sake of my point, but I hope you get the idea.

Religious fundamentalism is rarely a good thing. Consider the example of women's center doctors being murdered by extremist pro-lifers, as they cite religious reasons for their actions. Likewise, the religious fervor of so many Muslims who call for our deaths because someone supposedly threw a Koran into a toilet is equally dangerous.

I, for one, do not wish to live in a world where innovation and original thought are seen as heresy, and religion holds such power over others, and is used as the justification to cause harm.

This is why we must win, and so thoroughly crush our opposition that there is no chance of their rebuilding. We have got to get a bit of passion ourselves.

I just wish this is what we were doing now.

[phillyidol]

You know why I never post on one of your threads?...... Its because you state everything very well and leave me with nothing to say.
You do bring up a very good point(again). They are willing to kill and die over a rumor which was proved false. What do w

[middlesexnj]

Jim, many religions consider certain objects sacred. Ask an Orthodox or Hasidic Jew how they would feel if someone intentionally damaged a Torah: they would be furious, and if done by a political entity or its agent, it would in fact cause many Jews to fe

[MARV]

I have no problem with your pont of view STW. I've long since given up on this sort of common sense though as there are way too many over sensitive and unrealistic people in this country. In the end, the left leaning papers and political leaders who persu

[Jimbo]

Hey Marv!
First of all, this story is a hoax and Newsweek has already issued an apology.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7857154/site/newsweek/

I'll get back to the rest of this thread later tonight.

What Middlesex wants you to believe is that Muslim

[waukena]

ok, somebody help me out...who exactly is 'we'?

If you mean the US, there's probably oh, 50,000,000 or so of 'us' who think this 'we' mindset is jingoistic bigger dick bullshit...

[egg-roger]

Remember when part of Marilyn Manson's act was to rip up a Bible? (I gotta give Manson credit for recognizing the cultural diversity of his various tour stops - Here in Utah he ripped up the Book of Mormon!)
Would/did good 'ol Marilyn ever give the Kora

[egg-roger]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Jimbo[/i]
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What Middlesex wants you to believe is that Muslim fundamentalists and extremists are no d

[middlesexnj]

There are always people who are going to want to lump everyone who doesn't agree with them into a single pigeonhole. The point is that one should think about whether you are just trying to find reasons to put up walls between "us" and "them" to justify yo

[savethewave]

[quote][i]Originally posted by waukena[/i]
<br>ok, somebody help me out...who exactly is 'we'?

If you mean the US, there's probably oh,

[Jimbo]

Ya see, not ALL Nazis were bad people.
We should have built big fat peace bridges to Hitler's Germany too.
Really, they had no problem co-existing with other Anglo's, as long as you were subservient to them.
Then again, if you were a Jew, Gypsy, Slavic

[middlesexnj]

[quote][i]Originally posted by waukena[/i]
<br>ok, somebody help me out...who exactly is 'we'?

If you mean the US, there's probably oh,

[waukena]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Jimbo[/i]
<br>Ya see, not ALL Nazis were bad people.
We should have built big fat peace bridges to Hitler's

[savethewave]

[quote][i]Originally posted by waukena[/i]
wow...this is fucking frightening...
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[Jimbo]

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