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by **suttonrecords** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:43 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by swerve[/i]
 In response to Michael Sutton...

In a couple of words... ratings and profit $$$. Having listened to CFNY here in Toronto it met the same demise after 1987... programming Scary Thieves, Vis-A-Vis, The Big Supreme etc... (although wonderful to hear) doesn't allow for high ratings and profit $$$.

DJ's programming what they wanted to air was a rarity only ever experienced at a few commercial stations in the world... it was suggested that hardcore New Wave fans (thought to be maybe 10% or 50,000 of the 500,000 listeners who would tune in at least 15 minutes or more a week) to CFNY prior to 1988 would recognize in the first 15 seconds a lesser known artist or song. Programmers of these stations today are conscious of that and don't want to run the risk of losing a listener with the unfamiliar.

Unfortunately Michael the hard core is in the minority and not the majority... they know "Whip It"... "Don't Walk" is another story.

I was very lucky to have had an outlet such as CFNY here in Toronto as were you with XB-102... good times indeed that have passed us by on corporate radio. [:)]
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XB and CFNY were definitely kindred spirits. In fact, the XB DJs used to say, "Playing the best from the U.K., Australia, and CANADA." In those pre-Internet days, I didn't know which of the groups they were spinning were from Canada. Later I discovered that 102 favorites "Don't Walk Past" by Blue Peter and "Walk In Line" by 54-40 were of Canadian origin, as were Platinum Blonde. And, hey, both XB and CFNY were on the 102 side of the dial [8D].

What's ironic was that the plug was pulled on XB during its ratings peak; it was actually in the upper regions of the Top-10 when it was taken off the air, a commercially viable void that was quickly filled by BM-105 and NU-107. The problem was that the station's transmitter was housed in a property owned by relatives of the ousted President Marcos; when that was ceased by the Aquino government, the station went with them.

I think both XB and CFNY had a lot of freedom to allow their DJs to program to us hardcore fans, sprinkling enough hits in between the obscurities to reel in the unenlightened. CFNY played Seona Dancing, Jimmy Jimmy, and the Lover Speaks, too, right?

I remember requesting Seona Dancing on Seattle's KJET when I returned to the U.S., and they were like, "Who is that?" [V] Well, if XB can be brought back on the air (http://www.wxb102forever.com), I'm sure CFNY can, too. The Internet makes that possible.

Michael Sutton
CEO/Sutton Records
http://www.suttonrecords.com

by **WaverBoy** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:38 pm

I just gotta chime in here and say that I absolutely love love LOVE The Colourfield's cover of the '60s tune Windmills Of Your Mind. This is a beautiful song to start with, but The Colourfield take it and turn it into a truly heartrending experience.

by **Frau_Blucher** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:26 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by WaverBoy[/i]
 I just gotta chime in here and say that I absolutely love love LOVE The Colourfield's cover of the '60s tune Windmills Of Your Mind. This is a beautiful song to start with, but The Colourfield take it and turn it into a truly heartrending experience.
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You've forced me to embarrass myself and say I actually like the Sting version too.

by **fanciz** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:03 am

In case some dudes are not familiar with the superior version of the Colourfield.....

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RMQ ... W2YEKFML06

by **eight6** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:18 am

Well, I've listened...and I still don't get it. Superior? To what?

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by **fanciz** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:39 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by WaverBoy[/i]
 I just gotta chime in here and say that I absolutely love love LOVE The Colourfield's cover of the '60s tune Windmills Of Your Mind. This is a beautiful song to start with, but The Colourfield take it and turn it into a truly heartrending experience.
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Nice to meet you Waverboy, U have taste like a true Newwaver![;)]

by **i_like_lectric_motors** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:41 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
 Well, I've listened...and I still don't get it. Superior? To what?

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No shit. Smashmouth could have done it better, just like they did "Can't Get Enough Of you Baby" better.

by **WaverBoy** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:54 am

Hey Motors, if ya don't like 'em, ya don't like 'em. We get it. Ya don't like 'em. I think they're great. But I hate Smashmouth. It's all good. Different strokes and all that.

by **i_like_lectric_motors** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:10 am

Diff'rent Strokes was Ok, but Webster was much better. [:D]

by **eight6** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:18 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
 Diff'rent Strokes was Ok, but Webster was much better. [:D]
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Was Diff'rent Strokes the one with Dwayne and Rerun?

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by **i_like_lectric_motors** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:21 am

That was What's Happening? Different Strokes had Gary Coleman, Todd Bridges and the late Dana Plato. Webster starred Emmanuel Lewis (the anti-christ).[:D]

by **eight6** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:26 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
 That was What's Happening? Different Strokes had Gary Coleman, Todd Bridges and the late Dana Plato. Webster starred Emmanuel Lewis (the anti-christ).[:D]
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Motors, I bow to you: is there anything you don't know??[:D]

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by **i_like_lectric_motors** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:32 am

Not that I can think of. [:D]

by **i_like_lectric_motors** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:07 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by fanciz[/i]
 In case some dudes are not familiar with the superior version of the Colourfield.....

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0RMQ ... W2YEKFML06

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Hey Francine, I really hate to be a pain in the ass but you have this inferior cover of a great FOLK song mislabeled as Windmills Of Your Heart, when the correct title is Windmills Of Your Mind. Just thought you'd like to know. I'd hate to see the real new wave fans get confused. [:D]

by **WaverBoy** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:25 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]...or the best description I've ever heard for them is of my own invention - WUSSPOP.
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I would expect that response from a male who is insecure in his own masculinity. Now, of course I'm not insinuating that >you're< such a male, just that I'd expect it from such a male.

Let's list some examples of rugged he-man pop bands, shall we? You know, stuff that can be listened to without fear of anyone questioning a man's masculinity...

Motley Crue
Jackal
Lynyrd Skynrd
Bruce Springsteen
John Cougar Mellencamp
Whitesnake
AC/DC

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