B-Movie "Platinum Collection"

[Sean]

Surly, where did you get yours?

[Surly]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Sean[/i]
<br>Surly, where did you get yours?
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amazon.co.uk

The sound is good. All versions are 1984-85 (which means that "Remembrance Day" and "Nowhere Girl" are not the Sire single versions from 1982).

"Words like conviction can turn into a sentence"

[fanciz]

It's a good thing that most of the tracks come from Forever Running coz I have only 2 copies of Remembrance Days, the 1995 Griffin Music release and the 1997 Cherry Red release, same tracks, different covers. Cherry Red calls it the Dead Good Years.

[Sean]

Thanks Surly. Man, I really should have stuck with my original order.

[Synthpopfan]

I should be getting my copy this week. I can`t wait. [:D]

[Sean]

Received mine yesterday. [:)] Bummer though, there's a slight audio glitch on the first 5 seconds of my favorite song, "Just An Echo". Don't they have people listening to these things before they are pressed?!?

[fanciz]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Sean[/i]
<br>Received mine yesterday. [:)] Bummer though, there's a slight audio glitch on the first 5 seconds of my favorite song, "Just An Echo". Don't they have people listening to these things before they are pressed?!?
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Audio glitch? Could also be the result of excessive salivation upon opening the CD![:D]

[korova1]

My favorite topic! Yeah, I got my copy too, it has the same glitch... but there are remaster problems all over the place with some of the newer releases... It isn't just the small stuff... here are a few off the top of my head.

Police's digipack remaster of Zenyatta Mondatta has a massive CLICK right off the top of "Don't Stand...",
there is a really nice track skip on the "remaster" of the American Edition of "Lonely Is An Eyesore" on the start of the Colourbox track.
I've noticed audio dropouts on certain channels on my Skinny Puppy Videos DVD and Haircut 100's recent remastered reissue of "Pelican...".

When CD's first came out there used to be books and magazines put out by audiophiles that rated the quality of the mixes on the CD's and because of a poor review alot of the labels went back to the drawing board to put out the best quality versions. Now those days are long gone and the labels aren't really held accountable for the lack of quality that gets shoved out the door. WEA is notorious for putting out top notch crap since the beginning... Greed is good, right?!?

[Sean]

I am glad this got reissued a few more more complaints. [}:)] Why didn't they use the original artwork? I love that the cover of that album and have always thought it would look so cool in cd size. Even the back looked cool with the band members. Also, being a budget cd, they also left off all of the cool lyrics. These songs have awesome lyrics and it kind of sucks not to have them within the liner notes. Too bad Superfacta, Almancantar, or one of the other reissue labels didn't issue this one. I think it would have been much better.

[newwaveasshole]

wow i envy you guys, i hope they release this thing in the Philippines, i wonder how many copies Francis will buy? [:D]

[fanciz]

[quote][i]Originally posted by newwaveasshole[/i]
<br>wow i envy you guys, i hope they release this thing in the Philippines, i wonder how many copies Francis will buy? [:D]
[/quote]

Just 5![:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Rubellan[/i]
<br>Believe it or not, in many cases they do have someone to audio proof the CD before it hits production. Many times glitches make it into production because the proofer doesn't care, and thinks no one will notice. Other times it may be because the proofer is concerned about delaying a release for the sake of correcting an audio error. Recently, there was a Toyah CD released that I managed to pursuade a record label to issue. They included my name in the booklet, though now I wish it was not there. The sound on the CD was absolutely atrocious! Many songs were compressed into MP3 files before production. The person that proofed the CD admitted the first listening disc was rejected due to countless flaws, but the second CD went into production due to the release date approaching. I'm remastering the CD, hoping to replace the current version in production.

It's sad to say, but in the 80's I never bought a CD and thought, "This has errors" or "This doesn't sound very good". Though technology is improved today, there is less care in CD production. The term "Digitally remastered" is thrown around like confetti, and currently only means that it's been transfered to CD. Expect to keep running into audio anomolies as companies try to issue anything they can get their hands on at cheap costs. Unfortunately, when all the people make ignorant statements like, "I'm just glad it's available", they are ensuring no one is going to make the effort to release quality products if people are satisfied with substandard releases.

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Good points...that's probably the biggest reason why I decided to start doing restorations (for my own personal use). The terms restored/remastered need to be clarified. To me, 'remastered' doesn't necessarily imply an improved audio quality, and 'restored', while giving the impression that some improvement in the original sound quality can be expected, really depends on the quality of the source material.

Are you restoring the Toyah release from tape or vinyl source?

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[Rubellan]

The Toyah CD has been remastered using the original LP, one song from the original cassette, and the bonus material from various tape sources. When it came time to master it originally, Safari records provided Cherry Red with the original Mayhem master tape. When they opened the box they found the tape had turned to mush, and was completely unusable. They rushed to meet the release date by doing a very shabby vinyl remastering, and actually degrading the provided tape sources for bonus material. Their mastering guy is well known for doing shabby work when not pulling from original studio masters. Vinyl remastering is not his specialty, but the fact that he condensed more than half the songs on the CD into MP3 files before mastering is inexcusable.

Anyway, I have provided Cherry Red with the new master. It was approved with loads of compliments on how drastically improved it was over the first pressing. I heard a couple of weeks ago from Cherry Red they only had about 100 left of the original pressing, and my CD was going in for the second pressing very soon. The only way to distinguish the difference, other than the improved sound quality, is that my name will now be in the book with a "Remastered by" credit.

I have been doing vinyl remastering for about 8 years. It is my specialty and I am obsessive about it. If I get to use a source other than vinyl, as I did with the Toyah bonus tracks, I can do some great improvements in far less time than "restoring" from vinyl. The new pressing will be stunning, and it should be available very soon.

Scott

[eight6]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Rubellan[/i]
<br>The Toyah CD has been remastered using the original LP, one song from the original cassette, and the bonus material from various tape sources. When it came time to master it originally, Safari records provided Cherry Red with the original Mayhem master tape. When they opened the box they found the tape had turned to mush, and was completely unusable. They rushed to meet the release date by doing a very shabby vinyl remastering, and actually degrading the provided tape sources for bonus material. Their mastering guy is well known for doing shabby work when not pulling from original studio masters. Vinyl remastering is not his specialty, but the fact that he condensed more than half the songs on the CD into MP3 files before mastering is inexcusable.

Anyway, I have provided Cherry Red with the new master. It was approved with loads of compliments on how drastically improved it was over the first pressing. I heard a couple of weeks ago from Cherry Red they only had about 100 left of the original pressing, and my CD was going in for the second pressing very soon. The only way to distinguish the difference, other than the improved sound quality, is that my name will now be in the book with a "Remastered by" credit.

I have been doing vinyl remastering for about 8 years. It is my specialty and I am obsessive about it. If I get to use a source other than vinyl, as I did with the Toyah bonus tracks, I can do some great improvements in far less time than "restoring" from vinyl. The new pressing will be stunning, and it should be available very soon.

Scott


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I've never had the chance to restore from tape, with all my experience coming from my own vinyl collection. If you don't mind me asking, what software/hardware do you use?

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[Rubellan]

I never use master tapes, per se. I get CD-r's of flat transfers of the masters, then work my magic from there.
The software I use is Cool Edit Pro. I have used this from the start, and have really got a good grasp of the advantages/limitations of the tools I utilize. I never use auto pop removal since it always tends to damage certain parts of the music. I do all of that manually, and very carefully.