New Order Remasters

[MetaMatrix]

[quote][i]Originally posted by obs[/i]
<br>[i]>> * which version of True Faith?

> certainly the 12" ( a.k.a. extended ) version of it !?[/i]

Was this intended as a joke? There were two 12"es of True Faith, both which featured different versions.[/quote]

well ... there were various different versions / (re)mixes of "true faith" of course - spread over a variety of releases throughout the years , but i mean this version : http://www.discogs.com/release/12685 !
sorry for not being more specific here before !

[moni]

[quote][i]Originally posted by MetaMatrix[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by obs[/i]
<br>[i]>> * which version of True Faith?

> certainly the 12" ( a.k.a. extended ) version of it !?[/i]

Was this intended as a joke? There were two 12"es of True Faith, both which featured different versions.[/quote]

well ... there were various different versions / (re)mixes of "true faith" of course - spread over a variety of releases throughout the years , but i mean this version : http://www.discogs.com/release/12685 !
sorry for not being more specific here before !
[/quote]

That's not an extended version that is just the album version on that 12 inch. The shep pettibone mix has already been released on the rest of New Order and on the 1963 cd single. Be great to have True Dub on cd for the first time though for more details look here http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/ for a complete discography.

[MetaMatrix]

[quote][i]Originally posted by moni[/i]
That's not an extended version that is just the album version on that 12 inch.[/quote]

well ... it's as much an "extended version" as the 12" version of ( almost ) every other single by new order that was shortened / edited for the 7" single release - like in the case of "true faith" too ! [;)]

of course u could argue that it's NOT specifically "extended" for the 12" , but simply the ORIGINAL FULL LENGTH VERSION of the song then , which is indeed true !

[obs]

There were two True Faith 12"es released in 1987 (one before Substance, and the other, after), both with different versions. So which version is it going to be?

You can't assume that's it's going to be the FAC183 version and not <a href="http://www.discogs.com/release/12686" target=_blank>FAC183R</a>, although I do think that you can rule out the remixes from later years.

[MetaMatrix]

[quote][i]Originally posted by obs[/i]
<br>You can't assume that's it's going to be the FAC183 version and not <a href="http://www.discogs.com/release/12686" target=_blank>FAC183R</a>,[/quote]

of course i can assume that , but nobody has to believe me ... until it's released jus' like i've said ! [:D]

however ... my bet is on the original version & not on the above mentioned remix ! [;)]

[obs]

I agree. I think it's going to be the original version, as well, but still ...

[moni]

As much as i'm a little dissapointed about the tracklistings on these i will be buying them. Mainly because my Substance has started going that horrible browny colour and bits are starting to fall of the cds. As far as which mix of True Faith it is i'm not bothered as i have the shep pettibone mix on The Rest Of and the 1963 CD Single

[MetaMatrix]

from http://www.noizemakesenemies.co.uk/2008 ... ed-re.html

Movement (1981) Movement – bonus disc
1. Dreams Never End (03.13) 1. Ceremony (04.25)
2. Truth (04.36) 2. Temptation (7.01)
3. Senses (04.45) 3. In A Lonely Place (06.14)
4. Chosen Time (04.06) 4. Everything’s Gone Green (05.32)
5. I.C.B (04.33) 5. Procession (04.29)
6. The Him (05.27) 6. Mesh (03.27)
7. Doubts Even Here (04.17) 7. Hurt (08.07)
8. Denial (04.21) 8. Cries And Whispers (03.03)
9. Ceremony (Alt. Version) (04.36)
10. Temptation

Power, Corruption & Lies (1983) Power, Corruption & Lies – bonus disc
1. Age Of Consent (05.14) 1. Blue Monday (07.32)
2. We All Stand (05.14) 2. The Beach (07.22)
3. The Village (04.37) 3. Confusion (08.15)
4. 5 8 6 (07.29) 4. Thieves Like Us (06.38)
5. Your Silent Face (05.59) 5. Lonesome Tonight (05.13)
6. Ultraviolence (04.49) 6. Murder (03.57)
7. Ecstasy (04.24) 7. Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) (06.59)
8. Leave Me Alone (04.39) 8. Confusion (Alt Version) (07.36)

Low-Life (1985) Low-Life – bonus disc
1. Love Vigilantes (04.18) 1. The Perfect Kiss (08.49)
2. The Perfect Kiss (04.50) 2. Subculture (07.26)
3. This Time of Night (04.45) 3. Shellshock (John Robie Remix) (06.28)
4. Sunrise (05.59) 4. State Of The Nation (06.33)
5. Elegia (04.55) 5. Elegia (17.28)
6. Sooner Than You Think (05.12) 6. Let’s Go (03.43)
7. Sub-culture (04.56) 7. Salvation Theme (2.16)
8. Face Up (05.06) 8. Dub Vulture (07.56)

Brotherhood (1986) Brotherhood – bonus disc
1. Paradise (03.49) 1. Bizarre Love Triangle (06.43)
2. Weirdo (03.51) 2. 1963 (05.37)
3. As It Is When It Was (03.43) 3. True Faith (Shep Pettibone Remix) (09.03)
4. Broken Promise (03.46) 4. Touched By The Hand Of God (07.06)
5. Way Of Life (04.04) 5. Blue Monday '88 (07.10)
6. Bizarre Love Triangle (04.20) 6. Evil Dust (03.43)
7. All Day Long (05.10) 7. True Faith - True Dub (07.51)
8. Angel Dust (03.41) 8. Beach Buggy (07.20)
9. Every Little Counts (04.26)
10. State Of The Nation (06.32)

Technique (1989) Technique – bonus disc
1. Fine Time (04.43) 1. Don't Do It (04.33)
2. All The Way (03.23) 2. Fine Line (04.45)
3. Love Less (03.02) 3. Round And Round (06.51)
4. Round & Round (04.30) 4. Best & Marsh (04.32)
5. Guilty Partner (04.45) 5. Run (II) (05.26)
6. Run (04.29) 6. MTO (05.27)
7. Mr Disco (04.21) 7. Fine Time (Silk Mix) (06.19)
8. Vanishing Point (05.24) 8. Vanishing Point Instrumental (5.12)
9.Dream Attack (05.14) 9. World In Motion (Cabinieri Mix) (5.55)

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[clarence]

amazon and amazon uk both have all 5 new order reissues available for pre-order now. amazon uk is cheaper... they want $15 british pounds (about $30 usd) and amazon us wants $41.50(!) each...

[obs]

Here's an updated checklist of the singles (not including 7" edits) vs CD2. Tracks on both are bolded. Tracks (not included on these remasters) in [i]italics[/i] appeared previously on CD.

- [b]Ceremony[/b]
- [b]In a Lonely Place[/b]
- [b]Ceremony (with Gillian Gilbert)[/b]

- [b]Procession[/b]
- [b]Everything's Gone Green[/b]
- [b]Mesh[/b]
- [b]Cries and Whispers[/b]

- [b]Temptation[/b]
- [b]Hurt[/b]


- [b]Blue Monday[/b]
- [b]The Beach[/b]

- [b]Confusion[/b]
- Confused Beats
- Confused Instrumental
- Confusion Rough Mix

- [b]Thieves Like Us[/b]
- [b]Lonesome Tonight[/b]

- [b]Murder[/b]
- [b]Thieves Like Us Instrumental[/b]


- [b]The Perfect Kiss[/b]
- [i]The Kiss of Death[/i]
- Perfect Pit

- [b]Sub-Culture[/b]
- [b]Dub-Vulture[/b]

- [b]Shell-shock[/b]
- Shell-cock

- [b]State of the Nation[/b]
- [i]Shame of the Nation[/i]


- [b]Bizarre Love Triangle[/b]
- [i]Bizarre Dub Triangle[/i]

- [i]True Faith[/i]
- [b]1963[/b]
- [b]True Faith remix[/b]
- [b]True Dub[/b]
- [i]Paradise remix[/i]

- [b]Touched by the Hand of God[/b]
- Touched by the Hand of Dub

- [b]Blue Monday 1988[/b]
- [b]Beach Buggy[/b]
- [i]Blue Monday 1988 dub version[/i]


- [b]Fine Time[/b] (on CD1)
- [b]Don't Do It[/b]
- [b]Fine Line[/b]
- [b]Fine Time silk mix[/b]
- [i]Fine Time messed around mix[/i]

- [b]Round and Round[/b]
- [b]Best and Marsh[/b]
- [i]Round and Round club mix[/i]
- [i]Round and Round 12" mix[/i]
- [i]Round and Round detroit mix[/i]
- [b]Vanishing Point instrumental[/b]


- Run 2
- [b]Run 2 extended[/b]
- MTO
- [b]MTO minus mix[/b]

- [i]World in Motion[/i]
- [i]World in Motion the b-side[/i]
- [i]World in Motion subbuteo mix[/i]
- [i]World in Motion subbuteo dub[/i]
- [b]World in Motion carabinieri mix[/b]
- [i]World on Motion no alla violenzia mix[/i]


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State of the Nation appears on both Low-Life and Brotherhood? Or is one supposed to be Shame of the Nation?

I wonder what Confusion Alt Version is. The Substance 1987 version?

[DJ Phoenix]

When are these coming out in the US, anyone know?

"Keepin the '80s alive!"

[DJ Phoenix]

When are these coming out in the US, anyone know? Also, checking out the link, I love that Michael Jackson release. Hopefully, that gets a US release as well?

"Keepin the '80s alive!"

[moni]

[quote][i]Originally posted by DJ Phoenix[/i]
<br>When are these coming out in the US, anyone know?

"Keepin the '80s alive!"
[/quote]

30th September according to Amazon.com. Looking at prices they look very steep $41.49. The prices here in the UK are £14.99 but hopefully they will go down. I noticed they are selling the 808 State double remasters for £6.99 each at HMV now there's a bargain.

[GJH]

Thanks for the 808 State info. Ordered a couple right away. Great group. I guess they have a couple of New Order connections! Shame they didn't collaborate more.
GJH

[obs]

[i]> The prices here in the UK are £14.99[/i]

Hmm, at that price, I may opt for the download option. Hopefully, they'll distribute them domestically in Canada and it will be cheaper.

When you see Thompson Twins, 808 State, and (the one) Blancmange (album) two disc reissues setting the bar at around £6.99, you're not encourage to pay much more.