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by **fanciz** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:16 pm

Siouxsie and The Banshees album Voices on the Air: the Peel Sessions is now available for pre-order. There are various versions of the Peel Sessions, I have the Strange Fruit version with 4 tracks: Love In A Void, Mirage, Metal Postcard and Suburban Relapse. There is also a 8 track Deutch East version with 1. Love in a Void 2. Mirage 3. Metal Postcard 4. Suburban Relapse 5. Hong Kong Garden 6. Overground 7. Carcass 8. Helter Skelter.

The one being released on Oct 26 is more complete, it includes:

1. Love In A Void (John Peel 29/11/77)
2. Mirage (John Peel 29/11/77)
3. Metal Postcard (John Peel 29/11/77)
4. Suburban Relapse (John Peel 29/11/77)
5. Hong Kong Garden (John Peel 6/2/78)
6. Overground (John Peel 6/2/78)
7. Carcass (John Peel 6/2/78)
8. Helter Skelter (John Peel 6/2/78)
9. Placebo Effect (John Peel 9/4/79)
10. Playground Twist (John Peel 9/4/97)
11. Regal Zone (John Peel 9/4/79)
12. Poppy Day (John Peel 9/4/79)
13. Halloween (John Peel 9/4/79)
14. Voodoo Dolly (John Peel 10/2/81)
15. But Not Them (John Peel 10/2/81)
16. Into The Light (John Peel 10/2/81)
17. Candyman (John Peel 10/2/81)
18. Cannons (John Peel 10/2/81)
19. Lands End (John Peel 10/2/81)

http://de.music.yahoo.com/launchcast/st ... 1249492395

by **I. M. He** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:10 pm

Yeah, I pre-ordered as well as soon as I found out about it (thank you Ideal Copy!). It seems to have all the Peel Sessions I think - can't wait to get it!

-mk-

by **Barmy** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:38 am

amazon.co.uk price: $11.17 (excluding VAT).

Ideal Copy price: $13.99.

You do the math.

by **I. M. He** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:31 pm

Yeah, I've heard this before...
But, to me IC is like the local independent record store as opposed to Amazon's Wal-Mart appeal. That alone is worth the chump change difference... [;)]

-mk-

by **Barmy** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:41 am

Yeah, and like most local record stores it has crummy selection. Supporting amazon supports their incredibly wide range of products.

[}:)]

by **fanciz** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:22 am

Actually Amazon.com is charging $18.98 however they say that :" if the Amazon.com price decreases between your order time and release date, you'll receive the lowest price."
That price seems a bit high but I believe that it includes the cost of an insurance. A shipment with 2 CD's didn't arrive, they just replaced them, no question asked. I would have wished to support Ideal Copy but 1. Their shipment fee to the Philippines is prohibitive. 2. They never answered my past inquiries and 3. it's true that Amazon has a wider selection.

BTW the CD will be released on Oct 31

http://de.music.yahoo.com/launchcast/st ... 1249492395

by **Barmy** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:25 am

No, amazon.CO.UK is charging $11.17.

NEVER buy UK imports from amazon.com, it makes NO sense.

by **schwenko** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:56 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Barmy[/i]
 No, amazon.CO.UK is charging $11.17.

NEVER buy UK imports from amazon.com, it makes NO sense.
[/quote]

Agreed...but you need to account for shipping to the US (or Manila[:D])

by **fanciz** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:01 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by schwenko[/i]
 [quote][i]Originally posted by Barmy[/i]
 No, amazon.CO.UK is charging $11.17.

NEVER buy UK imports from amazon.com, it makes NO sense.
[/quote]

Agreed...but you need to account for shipping to the US (or Manila[:D])
[/quote]

Ok for the sake of demonstration, this is what I would pay ordering from Amazon UK
Items: £5.95
Postage & Packing: £3.58

Total before VAT: £9.53
VAT:* £0.00

Using the Universal Currency Converter, the cost in $ would be:$17.9893 . However banks usually use a higher conversion rate. Also, I don't know if my purchase will be subject to VAT, that's what they say: The correct VAT will be charged when the items are shipped and detailed on your ship confirmation email.
In the end I'm not very sure if it would be advantageous to buy from Amazon.UK, I'm getting lots of promotional certificates and shipping discount from Amazon.com, so for the time being I'm happy with my simple life having to deal in $.... only.[:D]

http://de.music.yahoo.com/launchcast/st ... 1249492395

by **yipyipcoyote** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:09 am

VAT is only charged when you're ordering from the UK.

however, $18.98 from Amazon.com does not include shipping..

by **Barmy** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:18 am

If you enjoy getting ripped off, feel free to not order from amazon.co.uk.

I would rather pay a little extra in postage (or, more likely, buy a number of CDs to spread the postage cost) than know that the peeps at Ideal Copy are laughing at me for buying their overpriced imports. Ditto amazon.com.

by **fanciz** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:01 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by yipyipcoyote[/i]
 VAT is only charged when you're ordering from the UK.

however, $18.98 from Amazon.com does not include shipping..
[/quote]

Thanx for the VAT info, I hate bad surprises eheheheh.
That's true that $18.98 doesn't include the shipment, I usually pay around $3+ per CD coz I always order 4-6 at a time. I will call my bank to have a better idea of the conversion rate they would be using and monitor the price of that CD since they might lower the price.They just did that for the Fisherman's Blues album.

http://de.music.yahoo.com/launchcast/st ... 1249492395

by **I. M. He** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:00 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Barmy[/i]
 Yeah, and like most local record stores it has crummy selection. Supporting amazon supports their incredibly wide range of products.

[}:)]
[/quote]

In Canada it's the opposite my friend... the chains stock what's 'Popular' and the Indies fill the gaps with the hard to find stuff. The Ideal Copy isn't a threat to Amazon... they're specialising in the New Wave / Punk / Alternative genre - you won't find Celine Dion or Rod Stewart CD's there. I've ordered from Amazon many times (.ca, .com. and .uk) and I've got no problem with them. BUT I always check with IC and support them if the price is comparable.
On the same note, I'll order direct from the artist (case in point: Andy Partridge's 'Fuzzy Warbles' series) regardless of the Amazon savings. It's only money... and I'd rather it goes directly to the person who creates the music then a mega-corporation (just to save myself a couple of bucks).

All in all though, it comes down to personal preference - you do what you want to do, right? Just don't get bent out of shape if someone disagrees...

-mk-

by **Barmy** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:51 am

Doesn't matter to me as I never, ever, buy CDs at physical shops.

Ideal Copy is a freaking ripoff fraud and I can't believe anyone uses them. For example they've got the new Lisa Gerrard Australian CD at $24.99 vs. $17.49 at amazon.

by **fanciz** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:38 pm

Well U are missing a lot, there are pretty attendants in Manila...[:D]
besides, U can listen to the whole albums in the listening booths not only clips.

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