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Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:06 am
by Rubellan
For those interested, Futurismo are releasing in July a limited deluxe double 7" of the classic single 'Pretty In Pink'. The package will contain 4 different mixes of the song, will be on Pink vinyl, and will come with a gatefold sleeve, postcard and inner sleeves. http://store.futurismoinc.com/product/t ... -isn-t-she
I remastered the tracks last year, and have confirmed my name is spelled correctly in the credits this time ;-)

Scott
(Rubellan Remasters)

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:07 am
by crystal
Looks definetely nice + I assume it will sound great.
Seriously though - the 2x7" plus postage to mainland Europe is 26.49 UKP... ahem, not in this world for me! Rather sad that these days everything seems to be about packaging and vinyl just to make sure to put stupid pricetags on the item.

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:14 am
by Rubellan
Yes, the cost is more on the premium side, but it really comes down to the cost of manufacture. Futurismo does lavish packaging but each little bit of bling adds to the cost of production. Vinyl production costs are out of this world, from what I've seen recently in my own investigation. Toss in non-standard items like postcards or custom inner sleeves, the cost just goes up and up. I respect the effort Del puts into the designing of his items and his desire to stand out with high end packaging, but I also understand when people feel the cost may be a bit out of reach for them. I'm just happy it's finally coming out :)

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:58 am
by crystal
Yup, that is why I am always rather against vinyl these days - not that I have anything against the medium at all, but what it has become simply is not my thing. Of course, fancy packaging is a nice thing, but not everything. Seems like everything is just for the superrich these days. Always funny, if it is about bands that come out of the punk days, if you ask me... Would be nice if there's an alternative (like a cd-single) - so anyone who cares about the remaster could just buy this.
What really gets on my nerves are the postage costs that are asked - it doesn't cost anywhere near 6.50UKP to ship such a release to mainland Europe.

Curious question, did you remaster it specially for vinyl?

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:18 am
by Rubellan
Someone on a label-related Facebook page also commented about the shipping price, and I believe it was an error and has now been corrected.
I do not remaster specifically with vinyl in mind. The previous limitations of vinyl are said to be heavy bass and high highs, yet I've had original LPs that occasionally have deep bass or excessive highs. I master the sound to what seems best to my ears. For older recordings that always means a careful increase in bass, since many older albums are a bit thin sounding. There have been occasions that I take the high end down a little, leave it as is, or even boost it if it's a particularly muddy or low-fi recording. But the thing that's often consistent with older recordings is too much mid-range. I definitely give the parametric EQ a bit of attention in that area. I hate that shrill horn-like midrange that can be inherent on some older recordings, and it also cuts poorly into vinyl.
But at some point it's out of my hands. Sometimes before being cut to vinyl, the manufacturing facility can apply something called a "de-esser" to take down some of the high end before they make the cut. I suspect that may have happened on one of my recent Altered Images 2 LP sets that I've remastered. Even though the tracks still sounded good, the top end seemed to have been rolled off just a little prior to cutting.

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:26 am
by crystal
Thanks for the info!!! Would have seemed strange to me to remaster just with vinyl in mind, that is why I was asking.
Postage has gone down a little - is now 6UKP to mainland Europe.

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:26 am
by Rubellan
I put up an exclusive 'Combo Mix' I created for my YouTube page with portions of all of the remastered versions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaRdNti7R0Y

Scott

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:59 am
by ABOATES
I agree that the cost of vinyl is ridiculous. New albums going for like $20...crap...reissues are the same. I laugh when I see a Depeche Mode remaster on vinyl going for that kind of $ thinking how I paid $5 for it brand new when it came out in 1983!
As for postage costs...have you tried selling anything on eBay in the past year or so...?! Holy crud, international costs are totally insane. had to start making mine CONUS only...and even that is too much. When the economy tanks, there are ramifications. :-(

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:26 pm
by df118
ABOATES wrote:I agree that the cost of vinyl is ridiculous. New albums going for like $20...crap...reissues are the same. I laugh when I see a Depeche Mode remaster on vinyl going for that kind of $ thinking how I paid $5 for it brand new when it came out in 1983!
As for postage costs...have you tried selling anything on eBay in the past year or so...?! Holy crud, international costs are totally insane. had to start making mine CONUS only...and even that is too much. When the economy tanks, there are ramifications. :-(


Shipping is insane...but not because of the postal rates. In the U.K. it's because of the global shipping programme. It's a rip off - where the seller sends it to another address in the U.K., and then they send it on to the global address. Takes twice as long and costs twice as much. A trip to the Post Office will show you that it's all BS. You can ship LPs to the US for less than £5. I just have them sent to my Sister and she sends them straight on.

US rates are very reasonable - but U.K. receivers often get charged an £8 hold fee by the Post Office...on top of a customs charge assessment. All of them are forms of arbitrary taxation.

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:51 pm
by crystal
df118 wrote:A trip to the Post Office will show you that it's all BS. You can ship LPs to the US for less than £5. I just have them sent to my Sister and she sends them straight on.

http://www.postal-calculator.co.uk/ gives everyone an idea what it really costs to ship an item (postage that is).

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:28 pm
by df118
crystal wrote:
df118 wrote:A trip to the Post Office will show you that it's all BS. You can ship LPs to the US for less than £5. I just have them sent to my Sister and she sends them straight on.

http://www.postal-calculator.co.uk/ gives everyone an idea what it really costs to ship an item (postage that is).


http://www.royalmail.com/personal/inter ... al-economy

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:34 pm
by Barmy
This is a pathetic joke. Possibly the worst vinyl anything ever.

Vinyl needs to go away....again.

I mean really, do we not have the technology to reproduce vinyl sound? If not, INVENT IT.

5, 10 or whatever years from now I hope someone can produce a perfect sounding recording. I can wait.

But this release in particular is beyond superfluous.

It is the most compromised PFurs song. Commercialized and crap.

And I'd rather die than own pink vinyl of this tune. Really. GEDDIT? The Song is Pretty in Pink. On PINK vinyl. The title says PINK. So it is on PINK vinyl. Understood?

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:43 pm
by negative1
i agree.

pretty in pink is a weak song from them. the original 1981 version by steve lillywhite was better though.

i'll take vinyl, for all the tracks that never make it to cd or digitial. thankfully more things are being remastered
and released lately.

later
-1

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:13 pm
by Rubellan
Barmy wrote:This is a pathetic joke. Possibly the worst vinyl anything ever.
Vinyl needs to go away....again.
I mean really, do we not have the technology to reproduce vinyl sound? If not, INVENT IT.
5, 10 or whatever years from now I hope someone can produce a perfect sounding recording. I can wait.
But this release in particular is beyond superfluous.
It is the most compromised PFurs song. Commercialized and crap.
And I'd rather die than own pink vinyl of this tune. Really. GEDDIT? The Song is Pretty in Pink. On PINK vinyl. The title says PINK. So it is on PINK vinyl. Understood?


Do you ever post anything that isn't filled with negativity and hate? In all of the years you've been here it seems the only thing you do is criticize people and/or their interests. Is life really that awful for you? If so, please save it. The release is going to be beautiful, and it's a great tribute to one of the bands' signature tunes. I think the original version is excellent, and cannot wait to see what Del has created regarding the packaging. It's that old phrase that I always see whenever someone bitches about a release: "If you don't like it, don't buy it". Simple as that. Del has spent ages trying to get this release out there and persisted through various snags to bring it out. Hell, the remastering was done about a year ago. But do you think it would have better sales potential if it was a 4 track collection of B sides from obscure singles? OK, you don't like vinyl. That's your right. I don't buy it for anything other than my collection. Just like someone shells out cash for silly baseball cards, I will pay for a deluxe vinyl release if it appeals to me. And the collector's market is there. So good for those who still like vinyl for whatever their reasons are.

Scott

Re: Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink double 7"

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:05 pm
by pinkyblue82
Not only should you be paid for your stellar mastering and great efforts in bringing these releases to fruition, but also for your superb writing skills. Always on point!