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Trees "Sleep Convention" on CD this December

Re: Trees "Sleep Convention" on CD this December

Postby Qbertqubes » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:31 pm

My main question is "what is the deal with Barmy?" It sounds like he is deep and secretively interested in the reissue of this cd. I know I am interested but the seller needs to let the buyer know it is an illegal bootleg. I will wait for the real thing as I do have the album and is is a great lost gem.
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Re: Trees "Sleep Convention" on CD this December

Postby Passing_Stranger » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:32 pm

First of all, let me state that Trees created two songs that are among my biggest favourites from the 1980s - "Shock of the New" and especially "Red Car". These two are the works of genius, no less. I'm not as convinced by the rest of the LP and find it to be a matter of mood or setting to like it or just tolerate. But I wholeheartedly support the idea of it being on CD after all this time.

Which brings me to this topic. I just recently got off a friend the CD that Rubellan managed to get banned on Discogs. He then wrote this:

"a third party corresponded with the "label" and was given a track to review the quality. He passed the wave file on to me and it was dire. There was a very heavy handed use of noise reduction that left very negative artifacts in the quiet areas, there was still audible and visible clicks and pops, and a very sharp fade was added to the end and cut off a full 8 seconds"

Well, I'm holding the CD in question in my hands now and after listening to it let me state that Scott's description is misleading to say the least. I'm not sure now what source he listened to (if at all), as this CD by Perspekt/F in reality sounds just like a great remaster should. I state that, as I for years have had a straight-off-the-vinyl rip (in flac) - and it's what sounds dire and dull with still audible clicks and pops. Perspekt/F CD in back-to-back comparison sounds great - very clear, reasonably loud while not at all compressed, with great sound balance and no vinyl artefacts in sight (sound). Vocals even seem to be highlighted, I feel (that may only be my impression, though), with all nuances audible. "Red Car" is striking, I'll say that how I always wanted to hear this gem of a song!

Which brings me to the situation regarding banning. One thing is when the project is on the go - you justly eliminate competition to prevent them stealing your thunder. In Scott's case, however, the project is only suggested to the powers that be - with no guarantee whatsoever of any kind of success (as past efforts show). That's what makes Scott's actions highly questionable. Yes, I read that it was with the artists's blessing - but what if Scott's project won't succeed? Is no Trees on CD (factory-pressed high quality CD, by the way, just like the good old days!) really preferable?

In short, I suggest anyone interested in this album to search for the CD in question on other platforms. It's not in high numbers, it looks and sounds great, it will make a collector's item easily - and it won't derail Scott's project as, once it comes to fruition, will have much more to offer and really is a different thing altogether.
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Re: Trees "Sleep Convention" on CD this December

Postby Danielwaver » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:38 pm

Scott, so it appears you haven't heard from the label and won't for the foreseeable future. I'll come back here in 2 months to repeat what I said. In the meantime my re-issue CD is in the mail as we speak...
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Re: Trees "Sleep Convention" on CD this December

Postby Rubellan » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:37 am

No, no response yet from Universal, and I'm as frustrated as anyone. All 3 majors give you the impression a reissue takes about 6 months from start to finish, but here I am at about 9 months since my first contact with Sony, with Warners following in August and Universal in September, and I don't even have a single final clearance yet. But Sony tell me that I should expect some clearances before the end of March. The other 2 have offered no clues at this point, so it's a waiting game. Trust me, I'm probably weakening my heart each day waiting for that specific notification sound that I have set to the email address I have for label communications. I am so eager to get ANYTHING rolling at this point but I cannot force anyone's hand. I've already annoyed the original Sony contact with only the occasional inquiry, I don't want to repeat that with Warners or Universal. I have had contact with both labels in the past couple of weeks about other things but there's been no feedback about my requests. FYI, between the 3 majors, I have about 20 reissue requests submitted. And remember, it was the Universal contact who gave the impression I should receive feedback on Trees within a few weeks. More than 4 months later, I'm still waiting...
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