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Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:42 am
by ZippY
Finally got an answer from Cherry Pop today:

Hello,



Thank you for your message.

Unfortunately, it is too late to include these two tracks on CD 1 as this album has gone off for manufacturing.

We omitted Jungle 12" mix as that was included on the Re-Fuse 6CD box set released in 2010 and Warners were unable to locate the master for The Politics Of Dancing US 12" Mix.

We apologise for any inconvenience caused.

Best regards,

Cherry Red Records

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:23 am
by Bellenger1981
Thank you for the update about the missing tracks. A handful of the tracks on this reissue were included on the "Re-fuse" box set from 2010, so shouldn't those be omitted as well? Is that really the logic for not including the 12" of "Jungle"? As for Warners not being able to locate the master for the U.S. 12" of "The Politics of Dancing", perhaps it's with Universal? Oh well. If the sound quality is good, I'll still be getting it for the rarities.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:36 pm
by ZippY
Bellenger1981 wrote:Thank you for the update about the missing tracks. A handful of the tracks on this reissue were included on the "Re-fuse" box set from 2010, so shouldn't those be omitted as well? Is that really the logic for not including the 12" of "Jungle"? As for Warners not being able to locate the master for the U.S. 12" of "The Politics of Dancing", perhaps it's with Universal? Oh well. If the sound quality is good, I'll still be getting it for the rarities.


I was asking myself the same question earlier.

Plus: They could pluck both 12 inch mixes from the Re-Fuse box and include them on this upcoming release. Perfectly fine. Again, a lame excuse if you ask me. Not the first time and this will certainly not be the last.

I'll buy anyway because I missed out on a copy of the Re-Fuse boxset earlier. If I had a copy of that one, I'd never bother with Cherry Pop. After 25 years I will not wait any longer for a Re-Flex CD.

Here's hope.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:35 pm
by Bellenger1981
Keep in mind, too, that, even though it's been 18 years, the U.S. 12" mix of "The Politics of Dancing" appeared on "Pulsating Grooves 3", released by EMI-Capitol in 2000. To my ears, it sounds like a master tape source. It just suffers from excessive brick-walling and some distortion, as a result. So, I suppose that it could easily get lost in that time. Didn't Universal Music pick up Capitol's back catalog in the U.S.? I just find it odd that they were able to hunt down the U.S. 7" mix of "Hurt", which has never been made available on CD, but couldn't get the U.S. 12" of "The Politics of Dancing". And, yes, you are right. The original international 12" version of "The Politics of Dancing" is missing as well.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:49 pm
by omar
I will still end up getting this reissue at some point even without the obvious omissions. Humanication was my personal favorite. A friend of mine was kind enough to make me a copy from his box set version. I’m hoping that they’ll release it next if POD sells enough.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:13 am
by 80s
So there are 3 different long versions of the Politics Of Dancing as fare as i know.

The album version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Po4gXK5JGE

The U.K. 12” version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2_3j_T1Q-M

The U.S 12” version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-asgNMyT8

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:22 am
by Bellenger1981
80s, thanks for pointing this out. Looks like Cherry Red dropped the ball on this one. Of course, lack of a master will probably be blamed for the U.K. 12" missing as well, even though this release is supposedly going to be sourcing from vinyl for a handful of tracks.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:32 am
by 80s
Bellenger1981 wrote:80s, thanks for pointing this out. Looks like Cherry Red dropped the ball on this one. Of course, lack of a master will probably be blamed for the U.K. 12" missing as well, even though this release is supposedly going to be sourcing from vinyl for a handful of tracks.

Yes i do agree with you Bellenger1981 that Cherry Red have made a mess of this cd.Those mixes should not be missing.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:03 pm
by omar
Which was the version of POD that appeared on the so80s compilation?

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:50 pm
by Bellenger1981
I don't think that it was on a 'so8os' compilation ... or, am I not seeing it?

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:03 pm
by omar
It was on so80s 2 from 2010. It just says extended version at 6:31 min. I never got any of those early so80s cds as they were brickwalled to death. I my opinion the UK 12” sounds the best.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:02 pm
by Bellenger1981
It is not on my copy of "so8os 2". Are there different pressings?

Yes, the early CDs are brick-walled to death. They did get re-pressings in 2015 with new mastering. However, they were rather expensive, so I passed. Blank & Jones were apparently going to make the newly mastered files available for download for those who purchased the original discs. That never came to be, to the best of my knowledge.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:53 am
by moni
It's not on any of the so8os compilations.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:45 pm
by negative1
moni wrote:It's not on any of the so8os compilations.


then what is this track 17?
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https://www.discogs.com/Blank-Jones-So8 ... se/2200103

Tracklist Show Credits
01 –Freddie Mercury Love Kills (Extended Mix) 5:23
02 –Duran Duran Hold Back The Rain (Carnival Remix) 6:58
03 –Depeche Mode Medley: Route 66/Behind The Wheel (Megamix) 7:50
04 –Heaven 17 Temptation 4:39
05 –Yazoo Don't Go (Remix) 8:26
06 –Corey Hart Sunglasses At Night 5:18
07 –Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark Secret (Extended Mix) 6:12
08 –Endgames Waiting For Another Chance (12" Version) 5:05
09 –Talk Talk Such A Shame (Extended Mix) 6:59
10 –Fra Lippo Lippi Shouldn't Have To Be Like That 3:53
11 –Simple Minds Promised You A Miracle (US Remix) 6:03
12 –Japan The Art Of Parties (Single Version) 6:43
13 –Culture Club It's A Miracle/Miss Me Blind (US 12" Mix) 9:09
14 –Kajagoogoo Hang On Now (Extended Version) 6:19
15 –Matia Bazar Ti Sento 5:37
16 –Midge Ure If I Was (Extended Mix) 6:44

17 –Re-Flex (2) The Politics Of Dancing (Extended Version) 6:31

18 –Billy Idol Don't Need A Gun (Meltdown Mix) 9:31
19 –Spandau Ballet Only When You Leave (12" Version) 6:24
20 –Ultravox Reap The Wild Wind (12" Version) 4:45
21 –Tina Turner What's Love Got To Do With It (Special Extended Version) 5:47
22 –Bryan Ferry Don't Stop The Dance (Special 12" Remix) 5:47
23 –Blank & Jones Audiokommentar So80s 9:41
24 –Kim Wilde Kids In America (Blank & Jones So80s Remix) 3:11

Video 1 –The Human League Don't You Want Me 3:25
Video 2 –Spandau Ballet True 5:16
Video 3 –Talk Talk Such A Shame 4:09
Video 4 –Heaven 17 Temptation 3:06
Video 5 –Duran Duran Wild Boys (7" Final Edit) 4:12
Total Time: 2:53:03

later
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Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:10 am
by moni
It's a digital download which i have never came across before.