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Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:58 pm
by omar
Released Nov. 30th on Cherry Red. Here's the track list:


DISC ONE
1. PRAYING TO THE BEAT
2. HITLINE
3. HURT
4. COULDN’T STAND A DAY
5. THE POLITICS OF DANCING
6. SOMETHING ABOUT YOU
7. POINTLESS
8. JUNGLE
9. SENSITIVE
10.KEEP IN TOUCH

BONUS TRACKS
11.CRUEL WORLD (12” EXTENDED VERSION)
12.THE POLITICS OF DANCING (7” VERSION)
13.CRUEL WORLD (7” SPANISH VERSION)

DISC TWO
1. FLEX-IT (B SIDE OF US 12” VERSION)
2. THE POLITICS OF DANCING (U.S. 7” SINGLE VERSION)
3. FLEX-IT (U.S. 7” SINGLE)
4. HITLINE (12” EXTENDED MIX)
5. HURT (U.S. 7” VERSION)
6. HURT (U.S. 12” PROMO RUBBER DUBBER MIX)
7. HURT (U.S. 12” PROMO EMOTIONAL JOHN LUONGO RE-MIX)
8. HURT (EMOTIONAL PETE SMITH RE-MIX)
9. CUT IT
10.PRAYING TO THE BEAT (12” EXTENDED VERSION)
11.CUT IT (12” EXTENDED VERSION)
12.WHAT YOU DESERVE (7” SINGLE VERSION)

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:04 pm
by Bellenger1981
The track listing looks just about perfect, but it's missing the U.S. 12" mix of "The Politics of Dancing", unfortunately.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:08 pm
by omar
Jungle (12") is also missing. I never got the Re-flex boxset that was put out through their website some years ago. It remains to be seen what we get with this Cherry Red version.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:55 am
by ZippY
Weird omissions, because there's enough space for it on the 1st CD. Do they actually know about those tracks?! I'll try to send them an email about it.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:07 am
by Bellenger1981
Thank you for pointing out the 12" of "Jungle" missing, too. I tried sending an e-mail to ideas@cherryred.co.uk, but it bounced back as undeliverable.

I got the Re-Flex box set, but it was missing a number of original 12" mixes. That's why I was hoping that this release would correct that issue.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:25 am
by Surly
My reaction is 1) very excited, because the 7" mix of "Hurt" is the one thing I really cared about that was missing from the boxed set reissues from a number of years back. However, it's Cherry Red, so I'm concerned that 2) it's just going to be a lousy vinyl rip. I'll wait for the reviews, but if this is done from tapes, I'll buy it in an instant.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:43 am
by Bellenger1981
Surly wrote:My reaction is 1) very excited, because the 7" mix of "Hurt" is the one thing I really cared about that was missing from the boxed set reissues from a number of years back. However, it's Cherry Red, so I'm concerned that 2) it's just going to be a lousy vinyl rip. I'll wait for the reviews, but if this is done from tapes, I'll buy it in an instant.

Excellent point. Hopefully, the band were involved in the project, and we get all the bonus tracks sourced from original masters. Let's also hope that the mastering does not suffer from extreme brick-walling. You never know with Cherry Red, unfortunately.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 am
by omar
My guess is that they must have used the masters from the boxset and any other ones are perhaps vinyl sourced. CR has done the occasional one off wonders where everything is just right, like the Kissing the Pink Reissues.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:04 pm
by Fred Taghon
I recall downloading the box set out of curiosity. I wanted to sample it before buying. If I remember correctly, many if not most of the tracks beyond the original album were slightly or in some cases, significantly "remixed". I was disappointed they weren't the original mixes. I'm hoping that's not the case here. I'm also surprised the 12" version of "The Politics Of Dancing" is missing. I mean, that's THE hit by this band lol. I have this from one of those "Pulsating Grooves" compilations released many years ago but would love a better master of it. I wonder if "THE POLITICS OF DANCING (U.S. 7” SINGLE VERSION)" is a typo and supposed to be 12" Version? I've never known there to be 2 different 7" mixes of it??? But certainly all the other tracks listed would be AWESOME if they're from master tapes AND the original versions, NOT "new" or "tweaked" mixes. Especially the "Flex It" and "Cut It" mixes.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:11 pm
by Bellenger1981
Fred Taghon wrote:I recall downloading the box set out of curiosity. I wanted to sample it before buying. If I remember correctly, many if not most of the tracks beyond the original album were slightly or in some cases, significantly "remixed". I was disappointed they weren't the original mixes. I'm hoping that's not the case here. I'm also surprised the 12" version of "The Politics Of Dancing" is missing. I mean, that's THE hit by this band lol. I have this from one of those "Pulsating Grooves" compilations released many years ago but would love a better master of it. I wonder if "THE POLITICS OF DANCING (U.S. 7” SINGLE VERSION)" is a typo and supposed to be 12" Version? I've never known there to be 2 different 7" mixes of it??? But certainly all the other tracks listed would be AWESOME if they're from master tapes AND the original versions, NOT "new" or "tweaked" mixes. Especially the "Flex It" and "Cut It" mixes.

Indeed. The 12" mixes were new mixes and not the original mixes. The remaster on "Pulsating Grooves 3" is way too loud and sounds unnatural. The U.S. 7" version of "The Politics of Dancing" runs about 3:55, whereas the European 7" version of "The Politics of Dancing" runs about 4:14.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:16 am
by moni
According to this https://www.discogs.com/Various-Pulsati ... se/1799931 it's the album version of The Politics Of Dancing that's on this compilation and to be honest i have never heard a remix of this track as the so called Extended Mix is just the album version.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:06 am
by Bellenger1981
moni wrote:According to this https://www.discogs.com/Various-Pulsati ... se/1799931 it's the album version of The Politics Of Dancing that's on this compilation and to be honest i have never heard a remix of this track as the so called Extended Mix is just the album version.

I own the compilation, and it is indeed the U.S. 12" mix. The U.S. 12" mix is distinguishable right away from its intro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY7RIn4byK0

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:45 am
by audiodile
Bellenger1981 wrote:
moni wrote:According to this https://www.discogs.com/Various-Pulsati ... se/1799931 it's the album version of The Politics Of Dancing that's on this compilation and to be honest i have never heard a remix of this track as the so called Extended Mix is just the album version.

I own the compilation, and it is indeed the U.S. 12" mix. The U.S. 12" mix is distinguishable right away from its intro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY7RIn4byK0


This is correct.

The version on Pulsating Grooves 3 runs 6:47, and is listed as the "Long Version" in Canada. "U.S. 12" Mix" is technically accurate, but it didn't have a mix name on the original US release.

The album version at 6:36 has confusingly been called the "Extended Mix", "Extended Version" and "Version Longue". It also saw release on the compilation Original Hits - 80's 12".

The mixes are similar in parts but distinctly different in the intro.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:01 pm
by omar
Burningtheground.net has an excellent vinyl rip of the US 12". BTW there's also the very rare John Punter mix which times at 6:16 min. I think it was on the Re-flex boxset.

Re: Re-Flex "The Politics Of Dancing" 2 CD Expanded Re-Issue

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:06 pm
by audiodile
Wow, I'd never heard the John Punter mix before. Different vocals, some different effects/synth/guitar emphasis. Seems like the kind of thing you'd want to put on an expanded re-release.

If you're curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM0MmEIaIrk