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Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:49 pm
by Thefxc2
Sean wrote:I have suggested that and others to Torben. He’s come through with most of my request except Moskwa TV and Microchip League “Code Numbers”.


Did you suggest the THX comp to him? That was a good one. The Voyou as well...

MCL in some form would certainly be on my list, and I think that would sell pretty well in the states. Personally I'd be ecstatic to see Bigod 20 (early singles), SA42, A Split-Second (1st album + singles), and Poesie Noire. (Assuming the Classixx series is an ongoing thing...looks like it's been a year since the last release.)

I dimly recall that they'd planned to reissue Robotiko's Cyper Space album as part of this series...I'm assuming that fell through.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:56 pm
by Sean
I suggested the Robotiko, Tribantura, Voyou, and Axodry but I am sure Torben already had it in his mind to do them anyways. A little knudging probably helped see it through. :) Moskwa TV and MCL "Code Numbers" was also suggested but they haven't happened yet. I keep wishing it would though. Basically all the cool Frankfurt stuff. The two tracks from the "Rejekto" 12 inch also need to be on cd. Not sure why those were left off the Robotiko compilation. The THX I did not suggest but it's pretty awesome.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:28 am
by discoginfo
The release has been postponed to January....

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:23 pm
by djKLANGkrieg
Sean wrote:I suggested the Robotiko, Tribantura, Voyou, and Axodry but I am sure Torben already had it in his mind to do them anyways. A little knudging probably helped see it through. :) Moskwa TV and MCL "Code Numbers" was also suggested but they haven't happened yet. I keep wishing it would though. Basically all the cool Frankfurt stuff. The two tracks from the "Rejekto" 12 inch also need to be on cd. Not sure why those were left off the Robotiko compilation. The THX I did not suggest but it's pretty awesome.

The problem with these ("Your Alltime Classixx Collection") is that the music is usually faded out earlier compared to the originals (which are not usually as loud either). The THX one, is missing one song that was included on a comp, and they used vinyl for two or three of the songs. For the Konzept CD they used vinyl for the Hype Mix of "Hypnautic Beats", when there was a better version on "The Official Techno Club Compilation" not taken from vinyl. The same thing with ECO: they used vinyl instead of the CD Single version. The Tribantura "Lack Of Sense" (Razormaid Mix) is missing a beat at the end of the song, I think (I have an mp3 that has an extra beat, that seems legit.) The Brigade Werther one is missing a short song ("Werther Rap") from the single "To Be Continued..." because they didn't like it. But they could have included it as a hidden track at the end. Oh, and I asked him if he could include the "Don't Look At Me" (E-Tron Mix) by Blind Vision alias E-Tron on "Works", but got no response either.

I asked the guy (Toban, I think) on a forum to include the Konzept side project U-Men, as a bonus with the Konzept, but didn't get a response. No prob, I just made my own double CD including all the original versions of the songs found on their CDs + the U-Men single as a bonus. I also made my own ECO 3 CD set that includes all their songs (and non are taken from vinyl either). Later on, I'd like to do the THX one with that missing track (but I'd have to spend several hours fixing the ones only available on vinyl).

That's about it I guess; glad I got that out of my system. :D

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:25 am
by Thefxc2
Per Pylon's website, this release has been pushed back to April.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:52 am
by discoginfo
I hope because they are considering a triple CD with ALL the mixes/versions....

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:45 am
by jason89
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Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:41 pm
by Glenn
Checked in with James at Pylon Records and this release is being delayed again. Warners is working to finalize where these will be pressed.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:21 pm
by musfan
Is this reissue going to be released? Their website still lists the April 2019 release date.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:47 pm
by Glenn
I check in with them periodically and checked in within the last week and was told they are waiting for Warners to sort out the pressing plant to get the CDs made. Still planning to be released but no ETA. I mentioned that the April 2019 date is still on the site and they responded that they are aware and will be updating their website soon with some new release(s).

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:18 pm
by musfan
Thank you for the update Glenn.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:29 pm
by Thefxc2
Yes, thanks indeed for the update. Pylon Records seems to operate in fits and starts; they were on a roll with those great Nitzer Ebb and Xymox reissues but they've been mostly dormant since then. So it's good to know this is still on, although I do wish they'd rethink the track list.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:37 am
by Jacquot88
discoginfo wrote:As far as I have been able to analyze, here are all non-LP mixes/tracks:

1988 - Broken Heart 12"

Broken Heart (Extended Remix) 5.41 [remix by Don Nedler/Karl Moet]
Broken Heart (U.K. Remix) 5.16 [remix by Jon St. James]
Re-Broken 0.59
Broken Heart (Radio Edit) 3.50
Control 5.30

1988 - Russian Radio

Russian Radio (Radio Edit) 3.30
Russian Radio (Fresh Radio Mix) 3.42
Russian Radio (Glasnost Club Mix) 7.28 [remix by Paul Robb]
Russian Radio (Tremont And Webster Mix) 4.40 [remix by Paul Robb]

1989 - Russian Radio [Razormaid Remixes]

Russian Radio (Razormaid Club Mix) 6.13
Russian Radio (Razormaid Fresh Radio Mix) 3.42
Russian Radio (Razormaid 12" Dub Mix) 6.44

NAIVE ART CD Bonus tracks:

If I Ever (Extended Remix) 6.31
Broken Heart (Razormaid Dub) 6.01
Rain 5.11 [unlisted and untitled piano-and-vocals-only remix]

1989 - If I Ever 12"

If I Ever (12" Dance Mix) 6.51
If I Ever (Instrumental) 4.44 [actually 6.48]
If I Ever (Dub Mix) 6.39
If I Ever (The 1000 Years Mix) 6.35
If I Ever (Thepsychoacidicfantasy Dub) 5.35
If I Ever (Hot Radio Mix) 3.51

1989 - All Roads Lead to You 12"

All Roads Lead To You (After Hours Mix) 6.13
All Roads Lead To You (After Hours Radio Mix) 4.35
All Roads Lead To You (After Hours Instrumental Mix) 4.35
All Roads Lead To You (Heart of Darkness Mix) 4.05
All Roads Lead To You (Heart of Dubness Mix) 4.05

1990 - Count to Three 12"

Count to Three (Power Mix) 6.59 [remix by Danny Tenaglia]
Give Me Your Hand (Razormaid Mix) 6.53
Count to Three (Razormaid Remix) 6.49
Count to Three (House Mix) 7.35 [remix by Danny Tenaglia]
Count to Three (House Dub) 6.07 [remix by Danny Tenaglia]
Count To Three (7" Edit) 4.22

1990 NAÏVE DANCE - Unique mixes

Pretty in Pity (Painless Mix) 4.34 [remix by Jon St. James]
If I Ever (Razormaid Mix) 6.51 [remix by Joseph Watt] [previously unreleased]

2001 CD bonus tracks:
Black Rose 3.49 [previously unreleased]
Lovers Unite 4.49 [previously unreleased]

Russian Radio (Siebold Mix) 5.16 [remix by Siebold] [previously unreleased]
Russian Radio (Decade Mix) 4.55 [remix by Red Flag] [previously unreleased]

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Hi, I will want to know more about it
Or what exactly are we talking about here? Thank you

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:42 am
by discoginfo
Sorry for any confusion. As I wrote, "As far as I have been able to analyze, here are all non-LP mixes/tracks".
So, it's a list of all the mixes/versions that were released at the time. = What really SHOULD be included in this 2-CD.
Although it would probably take 3 CDs to include all.

Re: Red Flag: Naive Art 2CD/LP reissue

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:29 pm
by Glenn
Re tracklisting, minimally they should include the 'If I Ever' 'Extended Mix' from the original CD. Not sure if that is the same as the 'Dance Mix' in the reissue's tracklisting. Hate to have to keep older releases when reissues come out.