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Postby thunderbird2 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:58 am

looks interesting but no tracklisting yet a bit pricey

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07N3RB14K/ ... rgin+Years
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby postpunkmonk » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:17 am

10 discs? It should have everything and £88 [$114] and that's pricey, but within reason. Color me very interested if it has every mix and version from the Virgin era. I see from the 5xLP box [also on amazon.co.uk] that Demon Music Group is behind this. I hope there won't be evidence of any further Edsel shenanigans! [fingers crossed]
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby omar » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:43 am

Edsel has put out some stellar product if compared to the other infamous UK label starting with a C. They did an excellent job with the Bananarama, Blancmange and Fine Young Cannibals albums. Hope they get Heaven 17's stuff perfect with involvement from both Glen and Martyn.
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby BigManRestless » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:50 am

Same price as the ludicrously overpriced Human League box with much more content in this one!
I don't think Pleasure One or Teddy Bear Duke & Psycho have been remastered before (even if they are the band's worst two albums).

I suspect this will recycle a lot of the content from the Penthouse & Pavement and Luxury Gap box sets, and probably means we won't get a How Men Are deluxe after all? Be nice if it has the How Men Are fan club instrumental mixes on it.
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby ZippY » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:45 am

From what I do remember a couple of years ago, I was a bit disappointed after the Penthouse & Pavement and The Luxury Gap boxsets. Especially the first one (not having all the remixes and stuff). That was the reason I remained with my 2006 Virgin remasters with a couple of bonuses. I bought all 3 of them. Soundwise they were a little harsh, but okay.

Hopefully with this upcoming big boxset, all the stuff (remixes, dubs & instrumentals) will finally be included, otherwise I won't bother.

Here's hoping ... (and that's no lie!) 8)
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby df118 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:56 pm

Just pre-ordered all three formats (there's an exclusive signed edition too) via Amazon UK. I can always cancel if needs be. Hopefully news will be up on the Heaven 17 Facebook feed soon.
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby omar » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:21 pm

im hoping the price will come down substantially. Importcd.com usually has very good prices as do some third party sellers on Amazon.
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby negative1 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:09 pm

I'm pretty sure I have everything on here. but I don't care.

will still have to get it.

hope the quality is good, and they don't mess up the mastering.


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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby humanracer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:23 am

Here is MY OWN TRACKLISTING. I think it covers the Virgin years but Guy can let me know if there is anything missing. I haven't included the actual albums as we all know the tracklisting.

PENTHOUSE & PAVEMENT:

I have only included BEF stuff where it appears on a Heaven 17 release.
As far as I know, there isn't a real 7" version of Facist Groove Thang.

(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Censored Version)
B.E.F.: Ident 1 0.35
B.E.F.: Decline of the West 7.15
I'm Your Money 7" 3.17
Are Everything 7" 3.04
Play To Win 7" 3:24
Play (instrumental) 7" 3:36
Penthouse and Pavement 7" edit 4.02
Penthouse and Pavement [Instrumental - fade-out] 4.35
B.E.F.: Groove Thang 4.06
B.E.F.: Honeymoon in New York 2.12
I'm Your Money (12" Version) 5.09
B.E.F. Ident 2 0.35
Are Everything (12" Version) 4.26 [B-side 12" I'm Your Money]
Play To Win 12" 7.29
Play To Win [edited 1981 12" mix] 5.02 - from ENDLESS
Play (instrumental) 12" 8.30
Penthouse and Pavement [Extended] 6.57
Penthouse and Pavement [Instrumental - full length]
At the Height of the Fighting (He-La-Hu!) (1982 remix) 2.55
He-La-Hu [Instrumental 1982 12" remix] 2.55

1980 Demos:

Penthouse and Pavement (Original Demo) 5.31
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Original Demo) 4.37
Play To Win (Original Demo Instrumental) 3.27
Soul Warfare (Original Demo) 3.55
Are Everything (Original Demo) 3.07
B.E.F. Ident (Alternate Version) 0.29
B.E.F.: Decline of the West (Alternate Version) 7.19
B.E.F.: Rise of the East (Alternate Version) 5.01
B.E.F.: Music To Kill Your Parents By (Alternate Version) 1.21
B.E.F.: Uptown Apocalypse (Alternate Version) 3.02
B.E.F.: A Baby Called Billy (Alternate Version) 2.49
Rhythmic Experiment 1 (2.00)
Rhythmic Experiment 2 (0.51)
Boys of Buddha Experiment 0.23
At the Height of the Fighting (Original Rhythm Track) 0.43
Rhythmic Loop Experiment 3.48
Funky Experiment 0.44
Song Experiment 2.59
Heavy Drum Experiment 0.31
Play To Win (Original Demo with Vocals) 3.31

LUXURY GAP
Let Me Go! (Instrumental) 4.59
Temptation (single version) 3.08
We Live So Fast 3.50 [Special B-side Remix]
Come Live with Me 3.35
Let's All Make a Bomb (New Version) 5.07
Song with No Name (New Version) 4.13
Crushed by the Wheels of Industry (part one) 3.34
Crushed by the Wheels of Industry (part two) 3.15
Let Me Go! (Extended) 6.22
Let Me Go! (Extended Instrumental) 6.23
Temptation (Special Dance Mix) 4.37
Who'll Stop the Rain (Special Dance Mix) 6.12
Who'll Stop The Rain (Dub) 06:15
We Live So Fast (Special Dance Mix) 6.01
Come Live with Me 4.33 [12" version] - longer than album version
Crushed by the Wheels of Industry (part I + II uninterrupted) 6.57
Crushed by the Wheels of Industry (Extended Dance Version) 6.17
Temptation (Backing Track)
Come Live With Me (Backing Track)
Temptation (demo)
Lady Ice & Mr Hex (remix)


HOW MEN ARE
Chase Runner 2.59
Counterforce 2.59
Counterforce II 3.08
Flamedown 3.14 (slightly longer b side version)
This Is Mine (single version) 3.20
Skin 3.40
Mine 5.10
..(And That's No Lie) 3.25 (single version)
(And That's No Lie) (album version edit from Higher & Higher compilation)
The Fuse 3.53 (slightly longer b side version)
Sunset Now (Extended Version) 5.21
Sunset Now (instrumental)5:21
This Is Mine (Extended Version) 5.30
This Is Mine (Filmix) 7.18
This Is Mine (Cinemix) 7.25
This Is Mine (Cinemix) 8:56
(And That's No Lie) (Re-mixed To Enhance Danceability) 6.10
Sunset Now (Full Length Version)5:15
The Fuse (Full Length Version) 5:26
Flamedown (Full Length Version)4:01
Reputation (Full Length Version) 3:26
The Heaven 17 Megamix (Remix by Sanny X) 8.25

Instrumental demos:
1 Totgagol (The Skin I'm In).mp3
2 Jazz Song (Reputation).mp3
3 Blood Feud (Five Minutes To Midnight).mp3
4 Starwalk (Sunset Now).mp3
5 Strange Tales (Shame Is On The Rocks).mp3
6 Evereddi (This Is Mine).mp3
7 Commador (The Fuse).mp3
8 Itser (And That's No Lie).mp3
9 Recharge (Flamedown).mp3

ENDLESS/PLEASURE ONE/TEDDY BEAR, DUKE & PYSCHO
Let Me Go 6.47 [12" version - 1986 remix]
Penthouse & Pavement 6.33 [remix by John Potoker]
The Height of the Fighting (He-La-Hu) 3.06 [1986 remix of 1982 remix]
Heaven 17 Megamix 7.50 [edit]
The Foolish Thing To Do (Version 1) 3.37
My Sensitivity (Gets in the way) 3.32
The Foolish Thing To Do (Instrumental)
The Foolish Thing To Do (Version 2)
Contenders (single version) 4.29
Contenders (instrumental) 5.19
Excerpts from "Diary of a Contender" 5.24
Contenders (Dance Version) 6.23
(Big) Trouble 5.49
Trouble (U.S. Club Mix) [remix by Bruce Forest]
Contenders (U.S. Club Mix) [remix by Bruce Forest]
The Ballad Of Go Go Brown (Extended Version) 4.37
The Ballad of Go Go Brown (Version) 4.29
Train of Love in Motion (7" Version) 3.27
Train of Love in Motion (The Mainline Mix) 5.58

1992/1993 MIXES
Temptation (Brothers in Rhythm Remix Edit) 4.01
Temptation (Brothers in Rhythm Remix) 6.56
Temptation (7" Backing Track) 4.00
Temptation (Brothers in Rhythm Instrumental) 4.00
Temptation (Orchestral Theme from Temptation) 3.55
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Rapino Edit) 4.15
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Democratic Edit) 4.34
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Rapino Club Mix) 5.56
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Democratic Rapino) 6.04
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Democratic Instrumental) 5.57
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Rapino Instrumental)
Penthouse and Pavement (Tommy D's Master Edit) 3.58
Penthouse and Pavement (Tommy D's Master Remix) 7.04
Penthouse and Pavement (D's Super Disco Dub Mix) 5.36
Penthouse And Pavement (Mr Big Buckles And His Amazing Ride)
Let Me Go ("Hon, Its Flawless" Mix)
Let Me Go (I Trance Alone Mix)
Let Me Go (Let Me House You)
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby omar » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:34 am

I'm hoping that Edsel gives this a thorough treatment just like they did with Bananarama's back catalogue. I wonder if after this 10cd collection they might decide to release a singles boxset with all the singles compiled in individual sleeves? would that be worth waiting more for ? That's pretty much what I'd want.
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby negative1 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:26 am

some 92/93 mixes missing:
(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang (Rapino Instrumental)
Penthouse And Pavement (Mr Big Buckles And His Amazing Ride)
Let Me Go ("Hon, Its Flawless" Mix)
Let Me Go (I Trance Alone Mix)
Let Me Go (Let Me House You)

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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby df118 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:26 pm

Soul Warfare (Instrumental) [I know it was a Hot Gossip b-side release, but it's basically the album instrumental]
Lady Ice & Mr Hex (Remix)
This Is Mine (Cinemix) 8:56


I would be happy if they left off 'edit's, but included 'version's. I'm also hoping a full instrumental of Let Me Go 12" appears.
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby ZippY » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:26 am

df118 wrote:Soul Warfare (Instrumental) [I know it was a Hot Gossip b-side release, but it's basically the album instrumental]
Lady Ice & Mr Hex (Remix)
This Is Mine (Cinemix) 8:56


I would be happy if they left off 'edit's, but included 'version's. I'm also hoping a full instrumental of Let Me Go 12" appears.


You mean this one:
https://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-Let-M ... se/1608933

I remember having a mixtape with this version on it. Indeed it is not released on CD yet. Some US 12'' Promo vinyl even had a dub version of Let Me Go, but I can't confirm this because it can also be the edited instrumental version of 4:59min:
https://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-Let-M ... ase/123502

Someone who knows if there's a dub mix/version in existence?
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby BigManRestless » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:46 am

I'd much rather have unreleased / rare 80s material than those 90s remixes but I guess the last CD will be full of them.
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Re: heaven 17 play to win the virgin years

Postby negative1 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:43 am

ZippY wrote:
df118 wrote:Soul Warfare (Instrumental) [I know it was a Hot Gossip b-side release, but it's basically the album instrumental]
Lady Ice & Mr Hex (Remix)
This Is Mine (Cinemix) 8:56


I would be happy if they left off 'edit's, but included 'version's. I'm also hoping a full instrumental of Let Me Go 12" appears.


You mean this one:
https://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-Let-M ... se/1608933

I remember having a mixtape with this version on it. Indeed it is not released on CD yet. Some US 12'' Promo vinyl even had a dub version of Let Me Go, but I can't confirm this because it can also be the edited instrumental version of 4:59min:
https://www.discogs.com/Heaven-17-Let-M ... ase/123502

Someone who knows if there's a dub mix/version in existence?


the dub is the same as the instrumental, check youtube.

we had a long discussion and list of heaven 17 mixes here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=41257&hilit=heaven+17&start=15#p371055

still have to update and fix tracks and times.

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