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Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set


Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby BigManRestless » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:00 am

From Edsel (oh dear...how many faults this time?) a follow up to the Virgin Years box set. Not sure how many takers there will be for this, especially at £80. Bigger Than America is a very good album, Before After is decent, Retox/Detox is diabolical and the live album and Naked...are pretty inessential, and that live one is available is so many configurations already.

PR blurb:

This deluxe 9 CD set contains three studio albums (Bigger Than America, Before After, Naked as Advertised), a previously unreleased album (Space Age Space Music), The remix albums Retox/Detox, the concert album How Live Is, plus 48 bonus tracks (remixes, tribute tracks, non-album singles) and an illustrated 28 page 12x12 book with credits and annotation based on brand new interviews with the band. In 1988, after their fifth album for the Virgin label, Martyn Ware, Ian Craig Marsh and Glenn Gregory decided to rest Heaven 17. In 1996, after various British Electric Foundation and individual projects, the ensemble re-grouped to record the first album in this set, "Bigger Than America". The album featured two singles "Designing Heaven" And "We Blame Love", both of which would see many remixes released, and 1998's 2CD release "Retox/Detox" Featured nothing but remixes. In 1998, Heaven 17 decided to play live for the first time, and a concert was recorded and released in 1999 as "How Live Is". Around this time the band also recorded cover versions of songs by Madonna, U2 and Prince for cleopatra Records tribute albums. A brand new studio album, "Before After", the last to feature Ian Craig Marsh, was released in 2005 and (aside from a cover version of "Don't Fear The Reaper") featured the singles "I'm Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me" And "Hands Up To Heaven", both of which attracted many remixes. In 2008 "Naked As Advertised - Versions 08" Featured new interpretations of Heaven 17 and Human League classics alongside a cover version of "Party Fears Two". This fully-annotated set ends with the previously unreleased instrumental album "Space Age Space Music". Recorded in 1998, the idea was to issue the album, and invite singers to record their own melody lines and lyrics. The concept was never realised….

Out March 20th 2020.
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby Thefxc2 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:10 pm

Yeah I'd prefer a deluxe edition of Bigger Than America, and perhaps one of Before After that might incorporate Naked As Advertised. I think there's a lot of underrated stuff here, but a lot of nonessential stuff, particularly the remixes.
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby omar » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:13 am

I’ll definitely avoid the boxset but will get BIgger Than America and Before After if they’re reissued separately.
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby moni » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:07 am

That Retox/Detox is utter crap as there wasn't one decent remix on it. As far as i'm concerned they haven't released anything decent since Bigger Than America and i bought the first box but i won't be going anywhere near this.
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby ZippY » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:43 am

moni wrote:That Retox/Detox is utter crap as there wasn't one decent remix on it. As far as i'm concerned they haven't released anything decent since Bigger Than America and i bought the first box but i won't be going anywhere near this.


Same here.

By the way, it's difficult for me to understand why Edsel went for another boxset, or was it a decision from Glenn and Martin, or both ?! Did the Play To Win boxset sell THAT much ?!
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby blaaah » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:39 pm

I would sadly say arrogance that you could do it once, so why not twice. It'll sell it to the hardcore but at that price, i doubt anyone else.
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby Thefxc2 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:50 pm

moni wrote:That Retox/Detox is utter crap as there wasn't one decent remix on it. As far as i'm concerned they haven't released anything decent since Bigger Than America and i bought the first box but i won't be going anywhere near this.


The Adrian Sherwood 'Let's All Make A Bomb' remix is pretty good, but otherwise yes, it's a horrible remix album that stood out even in a time when there were a lot of horrible remix albums.
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby anfunny2003 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:21 pm

This later period material is obviously of less substance and less interest outside of the core fan base, but the band will probably make more money from this set than they did on the first, given the percentage Virgin no doubt got/gets. This second box was their own idea, I think. There's now a full track list and images for the CD and vinyl formats on Amazon;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083Y3LBKK

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Another-Big-Id ... B083Y3NJSD

Could they do a third set, covering the B.E.F. material? I know the 3CD set that was previously released was really lovely but oddly incomplete.
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Re: Heaven 17 Another Big Idea 1996-2015 9 CD Box Set

Postby negative1 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:41 pm

anfunny2003 wrote:This later period material is obviously of less substance and less interest outside of the core fan base, but the band will probably make more money from this set than they did on the first, given the percentage Virgin no doubt got/gets. This second box was their own idea, I think. There's now a full track list and images for the CD and vinyl formats on Amazon;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B083Y3LBKK

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Another-Big-Id ... B083Y3NJSD

Could they do a third set, covering the B.E.F. material? I know the 3CD set that was previously released was really lovely but oddly incomplete.


I see a tracklisting for the vinyl, but not the CD.

got it from another site:
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[CD1: Bigger Than America]
1. Dive
2. Designing Heaven
3. We Blame Love
4. Another Big Idea
5. Freak!
6. Bigger Than America
7. Unreal Everything
8. The Big Dipper
9. Do I Believe?
10. Resurrection Man
11. Maybe Forever
12. An Electronic Prayer
Bonus Tracks:
13. Bigger Than America [Version]
14. Designing Heaven [Radio Mix]
15. We Blame Love [Gregorio’s Mix]
16. Designing Heaven [Lloyd Wright Mix] [Motiv 8’s Radio Mix]
17. We Blame Love [Spacebaby Mix]
18. Theme From The Unreal Everything

[CD2: Retox]
1. Let Me Go [Rob Playford Remix]
2. Let’s All Make A Bomb [Adrian Sherwood Remix]
3. Geisha Boys & Temple Girls [Freddie Fresh Club Remix]
4. We Live So Fast [DJ Suv Remix]
5. Come Live With Me [Mulu Remix]
6. At The Height Of The Fighting [The Steve Hillier Project Remix]
7. Crushed By The Wheels (Of Industry) [Ski Remix]
8. Play To Win [M@krohart (Phillip Erb & Mark Rutherford) Remix]
9. Let’s All Make A Bomb [Geek Remix]
10. Geisha Boys & Temple Girls [Sector (Kevin Francis) Mix]
11. And That’s No Lie [Steve D’Agostino Remix]
12. Let Me Go [Ashley Beedle’s Modern Travel Dub Mix]

[CD3: Detox]
1. Brothers & Sisters (Fascist Groove Thang) [Michael Lange Remix]
2. Temptation [Rhythm Masters Vocal Mix]
3. At The Height Of The Fighting [Cisserio Remix]
4. Penthouse And Pavement [Ruff Driverz Remix]
5. Fascist Groove Thang [Tinman Vocal Mix]
6. We Live So Fast [Skelly Mix For Ripe Productions]
7. Geisha Boys & Temple Girls [Freddie Fresh Mix Radio Mix]
8. Temptation [Future/Past Disco (Kirk Degiorgio / As One) Dub Mix]
9. Penthouse & Pavement [Disco Central (Ben Mitchell & Can Can Studios) Mix]
10. Designing Heaven [Giorgio Moroder’s Subterranean 12”]
11. With This Ring (Let Me Go) [Molella & Phil Jay Present Heaven 17 Meets Fast Eddie]

[CD4: Bonus Tracks ‘3tox’ (Remixes 1996-98)]
1. Designing Heaven [Motiv 8’s Vocal 12”]
2. We Blame Love [Matt Darey Dub Mix]
3. With This Ring (Let Me Go) [Extended Mix]
4. Designing Heaven [Rodgers Mix] [James Reynold’s Vocal 12”]
5. We Blame Love [Instrumental Extended Mix]
6. With This Ring (Let Me Go) [Disco Fire Mix]
7. Designing Heaven [Le Corbusier Mix] [Motiv 8’s Dub 12”]
8. Temptation [Rhythm Masters Vocal Mix] [Radio Edit]
9. Designing Heaven [Stark Mix] [Gregorio’s 12”]
10. We Blame Love [Instrumental Mix]
11. With This Ring (Let Me Go) [Kay Cee Remix]
12. Designing Heaven [Trans European Heaven]
13. With This Ring (Let Me Go) [Disco Funky Mix]
14. Designing Heaven [Den Himmel Designen]

[CD5: How Live Is]
1. Fascist Groove Thing
2. Crushed By The Wheels Of Industry
3. We Blame Love
4. Come Live With Me
5. Freak!
6. Let Me Go
7. Let’s All Make A Bomb
8. Penthouse And Pavement
9. Designing Heaven
10. Temptation
11. Being Boiled
Bonus Tracks – Tributes:
12. Holiday
13. With Or Without You
14. Sign O’ The Times
15. Holiday [Xtended Dance Mix]

[CD6: Before After]
1. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me
2. Hands Up To Heaven
3. The Way It Is
4. Freedom From Love
5. Don’t Fear The Reaper
6. Into The Blue
7. Deeper And Deeper
8. What Would It Take
9. Someone For Real
10. Are You Ready?
Bonus Tracks – ‘Shorter Longer’ (Remixes 2006-07):
11. Hands Up To Heaven [Radio Edit]
12. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [Qubiq Radio Edit]
13. Don’t Fear The Reaper [Radio Edit]
14. Hands Up To Heaven [Spray’s Mega Dance Radio Edit]
15. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [Qubiq Tribal Back To 5 And 6 Mix]
16. Hands Up To Heaven [Qubiq Hands Up Tribal Vocal Mix]

[CD7: ‘Shorter Longer’ (Remixes 2006-07) Continued]
1. Hands Up To Heaven [Spray Mix]
2. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [Donquibeats Remix]
3. Hands Up To Heaven [Canal Pop Mix]
4. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [Lovesick Dub]
5. Hands Up To Heaven [DJ Futuro Mix]
6. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [T Total’s Secret Stalker Mix]
7. Hands Up To Heaven [DJ BC Mix]
8. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [Dimensional Love Machine]
9. Hands Up To Heaven [Astromill Mix]
10. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [Electroluv’s Remix]
11. Hands Up To Heaven [Qubiq DJ Edit]
12. I’m Gonna Make You Fall In Love With Me [Atom’s Ostwald Process Dub]

[CD8: Naked As Advertised (Versions ’08)]
1. Being Boiled
2. Geisha Boys And Temple Girls
3. Temptation [featuring Billie Godfrey]
4. Penthouse And Pavement
5. Party Fears Two
6. Don’t Fall
7. (We Don’t Need This) Fascist Groove Thang
8. We Live So Fast
9. Empire State Human
Bonus Tracks – Rarities:
10. Penthouse And Pavement [Live]
11. (We Don’t Need This) Fascist Groove Thang [Live]
12. Let Me Go [Exclusive Acoustic Version]
13. Rocket Man
14. Rocket Man [12” Remix]
15. Hands Up To Heaven [Qubiq Hands Up Tribal Dub Mix]

[CD9: Space Age Space Music (Recorded In 1998)]
1. Overture
2. Post Apocalypse
3. Soft Power Landscape
4. Track 4
5. Funk Experiment
6. Abandoned Malls
7. Fast Groove 1
8. Unknowable
9. Mission Creep
10. Thinking Machine
11. New Chase
12. Liquid Syncopation


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