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From their online store:

Definitive edition of their 1985 studio album Low-Life that includes the original album on 180g vinyl LP and CD – remastered. A second CD of unreleased audio, x2 DVDs of live performances from 1984 & 1985, plus a hardback book.

The vinyl album and CD are both wrapped in the original tracing-paper sleeve – not available since the very first pressing, and the first time ever for the CD

CD 2 contains 12 previously unreleased mixes and alternative versions, including Love Vigilantes and Sub-Culture instrumentals, plus Sooner Than You Think Full Length Unedited.

The two DVDs include rarely seen live performances from Rotterdam Arena (Netherlands), Koseinenkin Hall (Tokyo, Japan) and the International Centre (Toronto, Canada) alongside a BBC session and three tracks performed at the Hacienda in 1985.

Also included in the set is a beautifully presented hardback book featuring rare photos and a new interview with the band.

LP
Side one
1. Love Vigilantes
1. 2 The Perfect Kiss
2. This Time of Night
3. Sunrise
Side two
1. Elegia
2. Sooner Than You Think
3. Sub-culture
4. Face Up

CD1: Original Album 2016 Remaster
1. Love Vigilantes
2. The Perfect Kiss
3. This Time Of Night
4. Sunrise
5. Elegia
6. Sooner Than You Think
7. Sub-Culture
8. Face Up

CD2: Bonus Audio
1. Love Vigilantes - TV Pitch Instrumental Edit
2. The Perfect Kiss - Writing Session Recording
3. Untitled no. 1 - Writing Session Recording
4. Sunrise - Instrumental Rough Mix
5. Elegia - Full Length Version
6. Sooner Than You Think – Album Session Unedited Version
7. Sub-Culture - Album Session Early Instrumental Version
8. Face Up - Writing Session Recording
9. Let's Go – Album Session Instrumental
10. Untitled no. 2 - Writing Session Recording
11. Sunrise - Writing Session Recording
12. Love Vigilantes - Writing Session Recording
13. Sooner Than You Think - Writing Session Recording
14. Skullcrusher – Demo

DVD1:
Live in Tokyo
The Koseinenkin Hall, Tokyo, Japan 1985

1. Confusion
2. Love Vigilantes
3. We All Stand
4. As It Is When It Was
5. Sub-culture
6. Face Up
7. Sunrise
8. This Time Of Night
9. Blue Monday

Live in Rotterdam
The Rotterdam Arena, Netherlands 1985

10. As It Is When It Was
11. Everything's Gone Green
12. Sub-Culture
13. Ceremony
14. Let's Go
15. This Time Of Night
16. The Village
17. The Perfect Kiss
18. Age Of Consent
19. Sunrise
20. Temptation
21. Face Up

Live in Manchester
Whistle Test, The Hacienda 1985

22. As It Is When It Was
23. Sunrise
24. Face Up - Restored version using available footage from The Hacienda Dec ‘85 and July ‘85.

DVD2:
Live in Leuven
The Manhattan Club, Leuven, Belgium 1985

1. Let's Go
2. The Perfect Kiss
3. Age Of Consent
4. State Of The Nation
5. As It Is When It Was
6. The Village
7. Sub-Culture
8. Atmosphere
9. Blue Monday

Bonus Tracks
10. Thieves Like Us
11. Temptation
12. Confusion - Restored version from damaged tape with mixing desk audio.

Live in Toronto
Filmed by Paul Boyd
The International Centre, Toronto, Canada 1985

13. Elegia
14. Sub-Culture
15. The Village
16. Sunrise
17. We All Stand
18. As It Is When It Was
19. Love Vigilantes
20. 586
21. Age Of Consent
22. Temptation
23. Ceremony
24. The Perfect Kiss

The Perfect Film
Rehearsal Room, Cheetham Hill, Manchester 1985

25. The Perfect Kiss

I'd like to hear the unedited Sooner Than You Think, but apart from that...?

Until they release a corrected/enhanced "Substance" I can't get behind any ultra boxes for their albums. I didn't find any particular album as compelling as their 12" singles.

postpunkmonk wrote:Until they release a corrected/enhanced "Substance" I can't get behind any ultra boxes for their albums. I didn't find any particular album as compelling as their 12" singles.

You're right. Still hoping for a Factory CD single box set, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.

How can these N.O.-boxsets be “definitive” if it fails to include the remixes/b-sides from the 12″ singles?…

ZippY wrote:

postpunkmonk wrote:Until they release a corrected/enhanced "Substance" I can't get behind any ultra boxes for their albums. I didn't find any particular album as compelling as their 12" singles.

You're right. Still hoping for a Factory CD single box set, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.

How can these N.O.-boxsets be “definitive” if it fails to include the remixes/b-sides from the 12″ singles?…

I agree with both of you. I love lots of New Order, but for the most part, their albums have been the least interesting or satisfying to me. Always thought it was weird that some of their best singles never even appeared on the albums. That said, "Low-life" is probably one of my favorite overall albums, but there's still nothing here to suck me in.

ZippY wrote:

postpunkmonk wrote:Until they release a corrected/enhanced "Substance" I can't get behind any ultra boxes for their albums. I didn't find any particular album as compelling as their 12" singles.

You're right. Still hoping for a Factory CD single box set, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.

How can these N.O.-boxsets be “definitive” if it fails to include the remixes/b-sides from the 12″ singles?…

because they've already been released on the deluxe cd versions already.

i'm all in:
bought the super deluxe edition, the tshirt in both colors
both versions of the perfect kiss, the crystal clear and black.

all the re-released 12 inch singles.

its their second best album to me, after power corruption and lies.

i have all their other boxsets and will be getting future ones.

substance is old, and has been covered already with the reissued singles compilations (mostly),
or just find the originals.

new order isn't getting any younger, and holding out for non-releases or future speculation is pointless.

the price isn't important either if you collect them, like i do.

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You don't half spout some drivel seriously.

Well said!!

negative1 wrote:

ZippY wrote:

postpunkmonk wrote:Until they release a corrected/enhanced "Substance" I can't get behind any ultra boxes for their albums. I didn't find any particular album as compelling as their 12" singles.

You're right. Still hoping for a Factory CD single box set, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.

How can these N.O.-boxsets be “definitive” if it fails to include the remixes/b-sides from the 12″ singles?…

because they've already been released on the deluxe cd versions already.

i'm all in:
bought the super deluxe edition, the tshirt in both colors
both versions of the perfect kiss, the crystal clear and black.

all the re-released 12 inch singles.

its their second best album to me, after power corruption and lies.

i have all their other boxsets and will be getting future ones.

substance is old, and has been covered already with the reissued singles compilations (mostly),
or just find the originals.

new order isn't getting any younger, and holding out for non-releases or future speculation is pointless.

the price isn't important either if you collect them, like i do.

later
-1

Did anyone buy this?

Did they fix the one-channel dropout on that album track (from the 2CD remaster)?

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The vinyl album and CD are both wrapped in the original tracing-paper sleeve – not available since the very first pressing, and the first time ever for the CD

Are they talking about US releases? I have UK CD and it has the tracing paper, with each photo as separate pages. I'm pretty sure the CA pressing was like that, as well.

yes, i have it.

haven't noticed any dropout.

the tracing paper sleeves are like the UK releases, and yes, the canadian one might have had them also.


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ne ga ti ve 1

Thanks. Now to wait for the price to drop a bit .

No doubt re the price...

Just arrived!

Haven't had time to listen/watch, but the packaging is superb!

I didn't think about the CD package for the album being a vinyl replica, which isn't the same as the jewel case with tracing paper cover .

All discs include an inner, with the vinyl in a separate plastic slip, so the artwork inner doesn't get ripped in transit. None of the CD/DVDs had a mark on them, which is a complaint from some people (including myself) when not held in place with the hub/teeth thing. Inner sleeve is big enough for the plastic CD slips that I bought (off eBay or somewhere).

Still paid too much for it. $135CAD + tax, when I think it should be $100 at most (vinyl $40, CDs $30, DVDs $30). Oh well, my favourite New Order album. Nice to finally have it on vinyl without the tracing paper being ripped at the top (bought it used previously, CA and UK pressings).

obs wrote:Just arrived!

Haven't had time to listen/watch, but the packaging is superb!

I didn't think about the CD package for the album being a vinyl replica, which isn't the same as the jewel case with tracing paper cover .

All discs include an inner, with the vinyl in a separate plastic slip, so the artwork inner doesn't get ripped in transit. None of the CD/DVDs had a mark on them, which is a complaint from some people (including myself) when not held in place with the hub/teeth thing. Inner sleeve is big enough for the plastic CD slips that I bought (off eBay or somewhere).

Still paid too much for it. $135CAD + tax, when I think it should be $100 at most (vinyl $40, CDs $30, DVDs $30). Oh well, my favourite New Order album. Nice to finally have it on vinyl without the tracing paper being ripped at the top (bought it used previously, CA and UK pressings).

the books not free.
neither is the packaging.

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negative 1

Nope, but I'm buying again like it's for charity. Hey, it's not my fault Rob Gretton pissed away their money .