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Postby British » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:25 pm

I wish I knew about this table before I bought my Technics. I spent about $400 on my equipment, and still the right channel comes out a bit hot!

But if you can't change the cartridge, forget it.
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Postby Jimbo » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:42 am

The Stanton T.80 gives you the option of using the Digital S/PDIF output directly into your S/PDIF input that is on most decent sound cards.

In all honesty, I really suspicious of that USB turntable. If you don't have a turntable it's better than nothing I guess.

From messing with Analog to Digital transfers for a few years now, I have not found many short cuts that don't somehow show up in the final sound. Maybe I'm too picky too. [V]
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Postby MARV » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:26 am

This is what I use to convert analog videotape to digital. Also works great for analog music:
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/publicsite/u ... sion+9.htm

Since we're talking about recording straight to our hard drives, as a musician, this is what I use for recording my live performances:
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/M ... ain-1.html

I use both in tandem with Apple's iMovie or Garageband. 100% compatible breakout boxes, not one single problem ever. Literally, plug and play. Some of the best money I ever spent.

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Postby tomfin2000 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:43 am

I used to have the old school setup for transferring vinyl to CDR(turntable, amplifier/receiver, Pioneer home cd recorder, soundcard, Cool Edit Pro software, etc.) I got so obsessive/compulsive with it that I ended up burning myself out fairly quickly, so the equipment sat unused for several years and I finally ended up getting rid of it.

I still have all of my vinyl though, and now that I'm getting back into New Wave music again, I miss having the abilitity to do vinyl transfers. However, I don't want to invest the money in replacing everything, and even if I did, I don't have the space to set it all up.

So this looks like the perfect solution to me. When I want to do transfers, I just sit the turntable on the computer desk, plug the USB cable into the port in front of the computer, plug the power cord into the nearest outlet, and record the audio. When I'm done, I just unplug everything and put the turntable back in the closet. It doesn't get much easier than that!

I'm well past the point where I'm obsessed with trying to achieve pristine sound quality. I just want to listen to the music, so I'm sure the stylus and cartridge it comes with would be just fine for my purposes.

Thanks for the heads up!
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Postby obs » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:50 am

[i]So this looks like the perfect solution to me. When I want to do transfers, I just sit the turntable on the computer desk, plug the USB cable into the port in front of the computer, plug the power cord into the nearest outlet, and record the audio. When I'm done, I just unplug everything and put the turntable back in the closet. It doesn't get much easier than that![/i]

The point I'm trying to make is that the USB part is gimmicky. It's just as easy to get any turntable with a built-in pre-amp and hook it up to your computer's soundcard line-in (although you would probably need an adapter cable). There is no need to look at only such devices that are marketed as being "easy".
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Postby tomfin2000 » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:47 am

It's been a good 20 years since I purchased a turntable, so I didn't even know that there were models available that came with built in pre-amps.

So yeah, if you can get a turntable with a built-in preamp, then the only real difference is connecting the turntable's outputs to your soundcard instead of the USB cable to a USB port.

What do turntables with built-in preamps go for?
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Postby obs » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:49 am

I saw a Sony advertised for $99CAD. Obviously not very good but depending on how much the USB one costs, it might be good enough [:)].

This USB one has RCA outputs also. I don't trust USB when there needs to be a constant data flow.
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:47 am

BTW, it looks like Numark is willing to put their name behind it. This looks like the identical device. I don't know what the story is, if they've bout Ion or what...

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TTUSB
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Postby coop41 » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:10 am

HA! How funny, I joked about this in your hard drive thread without even seeing this yet! So, do I pay $60 more and get the Numark name slapped on there?????

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:19 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by coop41[/i]
<br>HA! How funny, I joked about this in your hard drive thread without even seeing this yet! So, do I pay $60 more and get the Numark name slapped on there?????
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Maybe it's more than just the name? Different cartridge?? You might actually take delivery of a brand-named make from a brand-named dealer??? Not sure if any of it.
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Postby coop41 » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:20 am

OK, I finally pulled the trigger and ordered it, 1-2 weeks before it ships (we'll see!) found it here for $149 with free shipping:

http://www.wwbw.com/Numark-TTUSB-i39965 ... ce=froogle

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Postby Max Murdoc » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:38 pm

I started ripping about 5 years ago and just recently scrapped everything I did (128kbps) and went to (192 to 320kbps).

Pioneer Receiver (15 yrs old)
Rotel turntable (25+ yrs old with solid hunk of wood base)
Ortofon cartridge (looking for a new one not original)
Xtreme Music soundcard (Creative Labs)
AAL speakers to monitor
all gold plated cables
Adobe Audition (for restoration)

Sounds pretty good if you start with a "clean" LP.

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Postby obs » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:48 am

[i]I started ripping about 5 years ago and just recently scrapped everything I did (128kbps) and went to (192 to 320kbps).[/i]

If you're going to record vinyl or cassette (basically, anything that's not a CD rip), I suggest you archive it as wave or some other lossless format (APE, FLAC).
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Postby Ollie Stench » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:38 am

I agree. One of the first big projects I worked on was archiving all of the Suburbs discography to cd (this was about 5 years ago, before Beejtar reissued them). I saved them all as 160k MP3 files instead of CD or wav files. They sound OK, but I wish I would have burnd them off to regular cds after all the work I put into it.
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Postby drsevrin » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:04 pm

For any Mac/OS 10.x users out there, here is what I've had success with:
Hardware:
A Bang and Olufsen Beogram 5000 turntable
Pioneer (or any other) Receiver/Amplifier
iMic USB interface (amplifier OFF)

Software:
CD Spin Doctor (bundled with Roxio's Toast)

Filter settings:
50% on all
Enhancer settings:
Exciter: 50%
Wideness and sub-bass: 25%

The software is very easy to use and the end result is very good quality. Only drawback is that it doesn't give you the flexibility to remove individual pops or otherwise edit the actual waveform. May not please the vinyl purist but I actually find the sound better than the original in many cases.
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