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Joy Division: Substance vs. Permanent

New Wave/Punk music, culture, genres, memories. '80s revivalism and other relevant topics.

Joy Division: Substance vs. Permanent

Postby Quite Life » Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:46 pm

If things really got so F**ked up here in the U.S. to the point that congress passed some stupid law stating that you could only buy one Joy Division CD, and that it was a narrow choice of only two: that is between Substance or Permanent. Which one would you pick[?]
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Postby Grayson » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:17 am

Permanent. I have both but have to give Permanent a slight edge over Substance for song selection and mastering quality. I'd say you have to have both for the best overview of Joy Division.
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:31 am

Move to France.
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Postby Jason² » Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:37 am

Buy "Heart And Soul" - nearly the complete studio recordings of Joy Division - no compilation can do them justice. Sadly, the reason it's "nearly" complete is for some bizarre reason they left the "Still" version of "Walked In Line" off. Go figure, it's m
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Postby Mr. DNA » Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:00 am

anyone think '24 Hour Party People' was a huge let-down...or is that just me...first 30 mins. seemed all right...but geez....
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Postby Quite Life » Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:17 pm

I agree DNA, The first 30 minutes was really compelling with the rise and fall of Ian Curtis. Then you had to spend the rest of the next 70 minutes with that F**king loser Shawn Ryder, though I think the movie and soundtrack should of had thier song "St
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Postby tikibars » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:42 am

Permanent is meant to be a career restrospective, and Substance is a collection of (at the time it was issued) otherwise non-CD (or LP) singles, b-sides and rarities.

So they are two different things.

A lot of Substance trax are repeated on the l
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