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by **Marque** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:41 am

In the 80's Vinyl was king (for the most part) and the 12" was an art form of it's own. They usually had non album tracks (B sides)that provided more insight into our favorite bands than any interview could, as usually these were tracks the artists picked out themselves. The extended mix provided more of what you loved in a song (at the same time some extended mixes never seemed to end!)..The criterea is inclusive of A and B side worth. Ok, this time Im going to be a little less strict I want 20...please number them if you can 20 to 1...I am looking forward to your responses: here are mine:::

20. The The: "Uncertain Smile" 12" (epic mix, really intersting B side)
19. China Crisis: "Working with Fire and Steel "12"(beautiful B sides)
18.The Smiths "William It was Really nothing"12" (B side provided us with "How Soon is Now")
17. Heaven 17 "Crushed By the Wheels of Industry"12"
16. Depeche Mode: "New Life" 12" (B side 'Shout' - great compliment to A side)
15. Killing Joke "Kings and Queens" 12"
14. OMD "Telegraph" (canadian 12" b/w "Genetic Engineering) Ext. Mixes
13. Polecats "Make a circuit with me" 12"(UK ext remix)
12. Tears For Fears "Change"12" 2 diff versions than LP and extra track
11. Most Smiths/Morrissey 12" always included different versions on B sides
10. Depeche Mode "The Meaning Of Love"12"
9.Japan "Nightporter"Japanese 12" (although I dont own this yet, I know all the tracks, therefore it ranks as an invisible favorite)
8.Duran Duran Tie tie Duran Duran: "Girls On Film 12"UK + "Planet earth" 12"
7. Tones On Tail : "Lions/Go" 12"
6. The Jam "bitterest Pill"12"
5.The Bubblemen: " are Coming 12" rare classic
4. Adam and The Ants " Stand & Deliver" awesome B side
3. Modern English "Melt with You" (mainly for B sides) Uk version even better
2. shriekback:"My Spine is the baseline" 12"--all-flawless tracks
1. David Sylvian/R. Sakamoto : Bamboo houses/music 12" if you know, no need to say much about this. If you don't , your local record store is just a stones throw away.

by **randy** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:31 am

Hate to let you down but I found that 98% of the time I thought "extended mixes" ruined the songs. I am sure there are exceptions but they escape me right now. ...and I know I am probably in the minority on this.

by **swerve** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:26 pm

New Order "Bizarre Love Triangle" on Brotherhood

vs.

on Substance (12" on here)

a ton of other examples where the 12" extended mix was far superior.

If you love a song there's nothing wrong with a couple more minutes of it.

by **fritzb** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:46 am

Actually randy has a point...

While there are some truly great 12" mixes, many were not particularly good and some were down right bad.

by **Marque** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:11 am

Methinks you missed the point of the thread, not suposed to be a critique of the 12" in general. Just spotlighting the positive ones in your life. It also helps if you actually collect vinyl. Ive found tons of great songs from bands that I love that are n

by **Marque** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:13 am

P.S. I challenge anyone to find a dog in my list (doesnt count if you hate the band)

by **bpdp3** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:48 am

I can understand the arguments, but I think I'm with Marque on this one.... I always enjoy hearing 12" mixes. Some are crummy - of course - but maybe that just proves out the strength of the original.

Half the fun of new wave was the interesting , "w

by **BHols** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:45 am

I don't think I have as many as 20 I'd consider favourites but the ones that come to mind right now are:

Secession - Touch & Michael
Kirsty MacColl - A New England & He's On The Beach (Extended not remixed)
Bananarama - Robert DeNiro's Waiting (Exten

by **skinnytie** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:08 am

Here's my list. Most of it is based on how much I preferred the 12" version of the A-side over its 7" or album version counterpart. I have noted where the B-side was an influence in being included in this list:

20. "Adventures in Success" - Will Powe

by **ebbhead** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:12 am

Depeche Mode - New Life (but mostly for Shout b-side)
Cabaret Voltaire - Sensoria
Nitzer Ebb - Hearts & Minds
Talk Talk - It's My Life
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Cities in Dust
Heaven 17 - Let Me Go
New Order - Substance (an entire album of 12"es)
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by **Marque** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:08 am

Great lists....some stuff I've never heard of , which helps me to find some new new wave stuff I may have missed.....You guys have similar tastes as I do, which I don't find in my every day real life....there is not a person I know who would choose "I Tra

by **cubby** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:36 am

Depeche Mode-Everything Counts 12"
Siouxsie and the Banshees-Dazzle 12", especially the Glamour mix
Siouxsie and the Banshees-Fireworks 12", for the b-side Coal Mind
Killing Joke-Eighties 12"
Shriekback-Lined Up/My Spine Is the Bassline
Heaven 17-Let

by **swerve** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:43 am

Marque --- Based solely on A Side of 12".

20. Blue Zoo - Somewhere In The World There's A Cowboy Smiling
19. Leven, Jackie - Love Is Shining Down On Me
18. New Order - Blue Monday
17. Lucy Show, The - New Message
16. MacColl, Kirsty - A New England

by **Marque** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:34 am

SWERVE: do you by chance have a pic of the blue peter 12" dont walk past ---was it a pic cover,? and was it on Ready Records ?ext Version?...I would love to find this

by **swerve** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:10 am

Marque:

Yes to all your questions.

Go to GEMM if you are interested in the original extended version on CD.

It is on a CD EP.

It's under the title:

Blue Peter Vs. The Plastic Peo

One seller has it.

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