Best New Wave Clubs

[FreeWave]

You know its really sad not to be able to join in this thread as this seems entirely geared for NY'ers. [xx(]

[Dave]

Sorry Freewave but us New Yorkers, or more specifically Long Islanders, were spoiled for choice with lots of great NW clubs all over the Island. This is largely thanks to a pioneering NW radio station WLIR/WDRE that dared to be different. They picked up on the popularity of the college radio music and the British pop charts and converted from album oriented radio to new wave. If you were on Long Island during those days - when WLIR converted and all these clubs started sprouting up - well, it was a glorious time.

Like Stubby says, you could go to a different club every night of the week. Ahhh, those were the days. But like everything, it started to go bad with overkill about the same time NW started to tank (mid-80's) leaving nothing more than a trail of great memories.

[fortyfives]

Anyone remember the Antenna in Memphis back in the early 80's ?

[snarly]

[quote]Originally posted by rewindmylife
[br]I grew up on Long Island and the place to go to dance to your favorite New Wave music was The Malibu! (It's in Depeche Mode 101, in case anyone has watched that recently.) The place was huge and there was plenty of space to do your thing or just hang out and listen to the music...they closed it about 4 or 5 years ago and there really hasn't been a place since.

Anyone else know of any place anywhere in the world that still plays great classic New Wave songs?? I'm just curious...and I want to know in case I ever venture out into the city it's located!
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[snarly]

[quote]Originally posted by rewindmylife
[br]I grew up on Long Island and the place to go to dance to your favorite New Wave music was The Malibu! (It's in Depeche Mode 101, in case anyone has watched that recently.) The place was huge and there was plenty of space to do your thing or just hang out and listen to the music...they closed it about 4 or 5 years ago and there really hasn't been a place since.

Anyone else know of any place anywhere in the world that still plays great classic New Wave songs?? I'm just curious...and I want to know in case I ever venture out into the city it's located!
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[snarly]

No- the original singer in Crush, Bramon, left Crush AFTER the album went out to national press (for example, see Alernative Press 4 star review 1993) and after the band's first single "The Rain" had already been released to big city commercial radio stations- like WNEW in NYC- where it hit medium rotation. It was after this that Bramon left for Head and his vocals were replaced by East/West Records w Fred's. But anyone who has heard Bramon's versions of the same album would have to say that Fred's are a poor comparison. In fact, pretty lame- compared to Bramon's.

Afterall, Bramon also produced pretty much everything and wrote all of the melodies and lyrics (except for a tiny passage of lyrics and melody written by Ferguson in the verses of "The Rain", & Big Paul and Carruthers contributed great drums and guitar lines, respectively, in much of the stuff. Although the 1st Island LP (1990) was produced by famed INXS producer Mark Opitz, and the 2nd LP (1992/93) was produced by Pat Moran (Robert Plant), it was Bramon's adn Legin's initial vision that led to the Crush (or "Pleaseurehead" sound. And this was in 1989, BEFORE Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins. Later on journalists said that Crush had joined the alterntive rock scene after those bands. But, the fact is, the 1st Island LP, recorded in 1990 was the very first "alt rock" band with big beat hop drums and angst vocals. As it has already been noted by certain savvy critics, Cobain copied Pleasureheads vision in revamping his sub pop sound and wirting into a more mainstream version of his own band after hearing Bramon's initial Pleasurehead demos.

[snarly]

No- the original singer in Crush, Bramon, left Crush AFTER the album went out to national press (for example, see Alernative Press 4 star review 1993) and after the band's first single "The Rain" had already been released to big city commercial radio stations- like WNEW in NYC- where it hit medium rotation). It was after this that Bramon left for Head and his vocals were replaced by East/West Records w Fred's. But anyone who has heard Bramon's versions of the same album would have to say that Fred's are a poor comparison. In fact, pretty lame- compared to Bramon's.

Afterall, Bramon also produced pretty much everything and wrote all of the melodies and lyrics (except for a tiny passage of lyrics and melody written by Ferguson in the verses of "The Rain", & Big Paul and Carruthers contributed great drums and guitar lines, respectively, in much of the stuff). Although the 1st Island LP (1990) was produced by famed INXS producer Mark Opitz, and the 2nd LP (1992/93) was produced by Pat Moran (Robert Plant), it was Bramon's and Legion's initial vision that led to the Crush (or "Pleaseurehead") sound. And this was in 1989, BEFORE Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins. Later on journalists said that Crush had joined the alternative rock scene after those bands. But, the fact is, the 1st Island LP, recorded in 1990 was the very first "alt rock" band with big beat-hop drums and angst vocals.

As it has already been noted by certain savvy critics, Cobain copied Pleasurehead's vision in revamping his sub pop sound and writing into a more mainstream version of his own band after hearing Bramon's initial Pleasurehead demos.

[snarly]

[quote]Originally posted by rewindmylife
[br]I grew up on Long Island and the place to go to dance to your favorite New Wave music was The Malibu! (It's in Depeche Mode 101, in case anyone has watched that recently.) The place was huge and there was plenty of space to do your thing or just hang out and listen to the music...they closed it about 4 or 5 years ago and there really hasn't been a place since.

Anyone else know of any place anywhere in the world that still plays great classic New Wave songs?? I'm just curious...and I want to know in case I ever venture out into the city it's located!
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[harold]

snarly- u are dead wrong. the crush cd LP came out to press w Bramon's vocals. got reviews (mostly great- i admit- he got a rave in AP) and then his vocals were replaced. then their first single Rain was released to radio in 1994. as for everything else- i heard a pleasure head cassette in the east vollage once and it was cool. i can see where kurt cobain comes in after this. but what ever happened to that pleasure head record? i cant find it anywhere. wasn't dave kendall a killing joke maniacal fan or something too? i remember he always wore a killing joke jacket everywhere he went.

didn't bramon and big paul also have something to do also w helping the orb get a record deal? i remember alex (orb) was in nyc and he and bramon were at a party and they were gabbing about dance music the whole time. i think it was in 1990. they were talking about alex getting a firemans jacket for the uk press and we thought that was cool!

[2Nu]

[quote][i]Originally posted by snarly[/i]
<br>No- the original singer in Crush, Bramon, left Crush AFTER the album went out to national press (for example, see Alernative Press 4 star review 1993) and after the band's first single "The Rain" had already been released to big city commercial radio stations- like WNEW in NYC- where it hit medium rotation). It was after this that Bramon left for Head and his vocals were replaced by East/West Records w Fred's. But anyone who has heard Bramon's versions of the same album would have to say that Fred's are a poor comparison. In fact, pretty lame- compared to Bramon's.

Afterall, Bramon also produced pretty much everything and wrote all of the melodies and lyrics (except for a tiny passage of lyrics and melody written by Ferguson in the verses of "The Rain", & Big Paul and Carruthers contributed great drums and guitar lines, respectively, in much of the stuff). Although the 1st Island LP (1990) was produced by famed INXS producer Mark Opitz, and the 2nd LP (1992/93) was produced by Pat Moran (Robert Plant), it was Bramon's and Legion's initial vision that led to the Crush (or "Pleaseurehead") sound. And this was in 1989, BEFORE Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins. Later on journalists said that Crush had joined the alternative rock scene after those bands. But, the fact is, the 1st Island LP, recorded in 1990 was the very first "alt rock" band with big beat-hop drums and angst vocals.

As it has already been noted by certain savvy critics, Cobain copied Pleasurehead's vision in revamping his sub pop sound and writing into a more mainstream version of his own band after hearing Bramon's initial Pleasurehead demos.
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[quote][i]Originally posted by harold[/i]
<br>snarly- u are dead wrong. the crush cd LP came out to press w Bramon's vocals. got reviews (mostly great- i admit- he got a rave in AP) and then his vocals were replaced. then their first single Rain was released to radio in 1994. as for everything else- i heard a pleasure head cassette in the east vollage once and it was cool. i can see where kurt cobain comes in after this. but what ever happened to that pleasure head record? i cant find it anywhere. wasn't dave kendall a killing joke maniacal fan or something too? i remember he always wore a killing joke jacket everywhere he went.

didn't bramon and big paul also have something to do also w helping the orb get a record deal? i remember alex (orb) was in nyc and he and bramon were at a party and they were gabbing about dance music the whole time. i think it was in 1990. they were talking about alex getting a firemans jacket for the uk press and we thought that was cool!
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Can some one let me in on what this is all about?<IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/richp62/Icons%20Avatars/dontknow.gif">

I thought this was a discussion thread about ((Best New Wave Clubs))

[guyinsf]

hey Quite Life, I actually do remember One Step Beyond, but it was in Santa Clara, not San Jose. There were so many new wave bands that played there but I was underaged when it was around and I remember the one band I wanted to see so bad was Aztec Camera but I couldn't go. My sister did get to see them though. They played there just barely a year after they released "high land, hard rain". Damn, I still regret that til this day!

[Quite Life]

[quote][i]Originally posted by guyinsf[/i]
<br>hey Quite Life, I actually do remember One Step Beyond, but it was in Santa Clara, not San Jose. There were so many new wave bands that played there but I was underaged when it was around and I remember the one band I wanted to see so bad was Aztec Camera but I couldn't go. My sister did get to see them though. They played there just barely a year after they released "high land, hard rain". Damn, I still regret that til this day!
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Yeah I know how that is I was only 15-16 in 83-84 when Echo Beach was the rage. Well there was always Stargaze at least I got to see shows at the Mabuhay, and Berkeley Square and The I Beam even thought The I beam was mostly 18 and over. Sadly 99% of the people there are gone or at least it seems that way. Occasionally I will pop in at New Wave City but it is absolutly not the same maybe because all my people from way back in the day are gone most people who go to NWC are 22-32 and are to young to rember new wave [:(] and I never see any of my people from back in the day from 82-86....

As for One Step yeah yeah yeah Santa Clara it still the south bay and comming fron San Leandro you still take the Montigue from 880 anyway it is all the south bay right. But it least it is very good to see someone from the Bay Area post

cheers,
ql

[MUSCLE13]

Hey I see all these posts about the old days but I am interested in here and now. The only NY club I see posted on this board that plays new wave/alternative is Subculture at Molly Blooms in LI. Its a nice club. We have been there, but aren't there any other good alternative clubs in LI or NY now? My wife and I loved Malibu. But I want to hear about 2005! Where are the clubs NOW?

[Randall Roq]

Dillons in Westwood- my favorite because it had 3 floors which each played a different style music. 3rd floor funk/dance, 4th floor New Wave, 5th floor metal.

Seven Seas on Hollywood Blvd across from Chinese Theater great music cool crowd I miss this and Dillons most of all

Coconut Teaser on Sunset for their GIANT long island iced teas,the crowd was a little on the foo-foo side though.

A lot of the others were playing mostly "dance" music...don't let anyone fool you, Florintine Gardens was big but the music sucked.

Never went to the Starwood though from what I hear I wish I had.

My girlfriend and her friends partied with John Belushi at the Rainbow (yeah, I don't wanna know)

[Astro6]

Anyone remember Stargaze in Fremont, CA????
or Primary in Wanlut Creek, CA???
Did you guys go cradel robbing at Lipps Walnut Creek, CA or Twilight Zone Alameda, CA in the late 80's???

Hey lets go see Voice Farm for the 300th time at the Berkeley Square???

Well The Berkeley Square was cool and so was the Keystone West al lot of gr[8] shows played there.

Did anyone go to One Step Beyond in San Jose, CA???

Clubbing was fun... Going to shows were better but new waver parties were absolutly the best.

cheers,
jr
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I know every single place you're talking about. Went to EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. There was also a place in San Leandro. Where a guy named Sean DJ'd...WOW this is weird! Those places were all so fun. I was underage and can not believe I used to get into all of them. Stargaze fuc*^&in rocked. I remember everyone used to take the Bart train out to Stargaze as it was the last stop and right across the street. We felt privileged because we grew up in Fremont and it was right there. So we became kind of snobby about it. We would all sit around and be like you guys want to go to Stargaze tonight? And we would have to get a consensus from our group.

Do you remember two for one night at Stargaze? Everyone used to go around asking Do you have a two for one pass....Do you have a pass? I look back and it was so funny. It was such a cool place. I loved The Berkeley Square and Lipps as well. Oh I think The Twilight Zone is what I was talking about being in San Leandro but actually was Alameda. Is Alameda near San Leandro? I live in New York City now and haven't been back in a while. Thanks for bringing up this topic. Wow, such great memories. I have alot of fun now, but that was a very unique, special time period. One that can never be repeated. In a way it is glamorized almost like the 1950s are. And that is very cool to know you were a part of it.