New Wave Outpost Forum

[quote][i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
<br>I fail to see how NW was brought down by a bunch of songs very few people ever heard

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All those songs were mainstays in the clubs I went to from Toronto to Western New York and had regular airplay on CFNY. Tastes in music are always changing. I started the 80s listening to Spandau Ballet, etc and ended it listening to Skinny Puppy. New wave dated itself with it's sameness and people drifted off to newer things. Kids coming of age in the 90s weren't going to fall back on New Wave, just like we didn't fall back on classic rock. We wanted our own thing for our time.

[quote][i]Originally posted by wherewereuin82[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
<br>I fail to see how NW was brought down by a bunch of songs very few people ever heard

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All those songs were mainstays in the clubs I went to from Toronto to Western New York and had regular airplay on CFNY. Tastes in music are always changing. I started the 80s listening to Spandau Ballet, etc and ended it listening to Skinny Puppy. New wave dated itself with it's sameness and people drifted off to newer things. Kids coming of age in the 90s weren't going to fall back on New Wave, just like we didn't fall back on classic rock. We wanted our own thing for our time.
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classic rock still exists, and although not as strong,
people still follow those bands (i grew up when it wasn't classic).

new wave music, has become the new 'classic',
i hear it in elevators, in grocery stores,
and other retail outlets, in commercials,
and on tv shows.

new wave died in popularity, but lives on forever
in every other form of media.

later
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[quote][i]Originally posted by negative1[/i]
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new wave music, has become the new 'classic',
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The same tired old songs have become the classic. The same songs you'd eventually end up hearing on top 40 radio or some station's "retro lunch hour". Anyone who clubbed in the early to late 80s has a different take on what would be classic.

"Classic" is a term that is far overused.

I remember reading an interview with one of the guys from Propaganda. It might have been Andreas Thein. He was talking about how these 80s groups were reforming to do tours, playing some "classic" albums, and how those albums were never that great to begin with (ie. mediocre albums that have become classic simply because they're old and everyone knows, from being around for so long).

BTW, I love "Mirror Moves" [:D].

[quote][i]Originally posted by obs[/i]

BTW, I love "Mirror Moves" [:D].
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New only remains new for so long, just as the anti-establishment becomes the establishment and the outsiders become the insiders. When the likes of Blondie, The Police and The Human League started having #1 records the stage was set for "the next big thing" to take their place.

just as another example.

saw a yoplait yogurt commercial (in the USA),
and they were using the original depeche mode - just can't get enough
as the background music.

THEY WOULD NEVER PLAY THAT SONG ON THE RADIO WHEN IT CAME OUT.

and now it's being used in a national commercial?

does that make it a classic.

sad though.

(and by the way, i LOVE 'mirror moves' by the furs,
one my all time favorites).

later
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here's another documentary about the
same loss of music genre's.

music era of the late 80's died out by the 90's.

hit factory - the music of stock aitken and waterman
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzQQgrqFZHc


later
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I like to (heavily) reduce and generalise it thus:

The New Romantics 'stole' New Wave and covered it in lace and marketing, then the likes of Stock Aitken and Waterman shot the whole lot in the back with tommy guns while thrusting their wares into e-ridden dance clubs making untalented people and themselves a lot of money.

Track Producers have been making untalented people and themselves a lot of money ever since while musicians still battle to gain anything even like the sort of media profiles (and therefore sales) that the musically untalented are having achieved for them.

Everything naturally evolves. Some things for the better and others; not so much.

Grunge was a reaction to the overblown nature of hair metal in the same way punk was a reaction to prog rock. Both movements took it back to basics and made it accessible to a greater amount of people.

New wave made its influences felt; techno took properties of dancey synth and moulded them into music that would appeal to the next generation of clubbers. SAW refreshed the poppier side of new wave by sprucing it up by smoothing the rough edges and making it sound brighter to appeal to girls.

Grunge didn't kill new wave, new wave got assimilated.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Frank_Chickens[/i]
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Grunge didn't kill new wave, new wave got assimilated.


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ooh I _LIKE_ that.....