Just thought I would share a very cool recent write up by band member John Reynolds with regards to their band 3D (A Fish In Sea) and the mystery track “Some Die For Money”....
My name is My name is John Reynolds aka Johnny Riff aka Riff. I am the guitarist on this recording. Somebody contacted me via Facebook yesterday 9/9/21 asking about this tracks’ origins. They already had quite a bit of information and I am now trying to fill some of the gaps? Titled ‘Some Die for Money’ by a band from Liverpool ‘3D a Fish in Sea’ a play on the word efficiency. When we first formed we were looking for an interesting name and Richie the vocalist read an article in a photography magazine with similar wording, he liked it, suggested it and it stuck. The song was never released in this format, it was released however, as a B side for the later 3D on RAK records with completely different lyrics titled ‘The Club’ Some Die for Money aka ‘My Murder’ …. A far better title by the way, whoever came up with it? 3D a Fish in Sea are- John Reynolds (me), guitar – Richie Holmes, Vocals – Roy Campbell, Bass – Phil Martin, Sax - Fred Palethorpe Drums, & Steve Spurgin, Keyboards . All still alive! 3D were John Reynolds, Guitar – Jon Corner, Vocals – Steve Spurgin, Keyboards & Freddie Palethorpe, drums (Later Roy Martin, Later Brian Rawling, Later Andy Redhead). ‘Murder’ was recorded first as a demo at The Open Eye Galleries (Studios), Liverpool
https://openeye.org.uk/history/ I cannot recall if it was 4 track or 8 track at the time, it was engineered and produced by the band with David Hutchman and Noddy (Mike) Knowler (the house producers/engineers), I have a decent recording of the original session. It was later recorded for a John Peel Session which is the ‘recording’ that has been doing the rounds, along with the RAK version that have sparked off the controversy. I had though (until speaking with Richie the singer only yesterday) the song had been written by bass guitarist Roy. Apparently not, Richie had written it, as in adding to a keyboard riff Steve played at a rehearsal room, that I added the heavy guitar riff to. It turns out Richie (who‘d have known) was a bit of a Jack The Ripper ‘buff’. He wrote the lyrics based on some books articles he was reading at the time. He told me yesterday that my wife ‘Gail’ had said to him when she first heard it ‘that’s too good, you never wrote that’! I have to say it is damn good eh? Proper title track for a horror movie stuff? So good that when myself, Steve and Freddie were sacked by the other half of the band – Roy, Richie and Phil, I was reluctant to just forget the song hence the revamped version once we found a new singer for the new 3D. I have now heard ‘cover versions’ of the track, all emanating from this and other similar threads! Mental! s aka Johnny Riff aka Riff. I am the guitarist on this recording. Somebody contacted me via Facebook yesterday 9/9/21 asking about this tracks’ origins. They already had quite a bit of information and I am now trying to fill some of the gaps? Titled ‘Some Die for Money’ by a band from Liverpool ‘3D a Fish in Sea’ a play on the word efficiency. When we first formed we were looking for an interesting name and Richie the vocalist read an article in a photography magazine with similar wording, he liked it, suggested it and it stuck. The song was never released in this format, it was released however, as a B side for the later 3D on RAK records with completely different lyrics titled ‘The Club’ Some Die for Money aka ‘My Murder’ …. A far better title by the way, whoever came up with it? 3D a Fish in Sea are- John Reynolds (me), guitar – Richie Holmes, Vocals – Roy Campbell, Bass – Phil Martin, Sax - Fred Palethorpe Drums, & Steve Spurgin, Keyboards . All still alive! 3D were John Reynolds, Guitar – Jon Corner, Vocals – Steve Spurgin, Keyboards & Freddie Palethorpe, drums (Later Roy Martin, Later Brian Rawling, Later Andy Redhead). ‘Murder’ was recorded first as a demo at The Open Eye Galleries (Studios), Liverpool
https://openeye.org.uk/history/ I cannot recall if it was 4 track or 8 track at the time, it was engineered and produced by the band with David Hutchman and Noddy (Mike) Knowler (the house producers/engineers), I have a decent recording of the original session. It was later recorded for a John Peel Session which is the ‘recording’ that has been doing the rounds, along with the RAK version that have sparked off the controversy. I had though (until speaking with Richie the singer only yesterday) the song had been written by bass guitarist Roy. Apparently not, Richie had written it, as in adding to a keyboard riff Steve played at a rehearsal room, that I added the heavy guitar riff to. It turns out Richie (who‘d have known) was a bit of a Jack The Ripper ‘buff’. He wrote the lyrics based on some books articles he was reading at the time. He told me yesterday that my wife ‘Gail’ had said to him when she first heard it ‘that’s too good, you never wrote that’! I have to say it is damn good eh? Proper title track for a horror movie stuff? So good that when myself, Steve and Freddie were sacked by the other half of the band – Roy, Richie and Phil, I was reluctant to just forget the song hence the revamped version once we found a new singer for the new 3D. I have now heard ‘cover versions’ of the track, all emanating from this and other similar threads! Mental!