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Postby Quite Life » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:00 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by abacab66[/i]
<br>That was abou the most ridiculous line of reasoning I've ever heard. I'd laugh but I truly feel sorry for you. You are so misguided in you religious ideaologies that YOU are blind to obvious truths. I see no reason to continue this discussion with you as you are about the most hard headed person I've had the displeasure of being spoken at!
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If it is rediculous as you say then you should be able to refute what I said in detail with the utmost of ease.
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Postby Bitter Almonds » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:02 pm

No, no. I'm actually enjoying reading Quiet Life's convictions. In terms of xtians, I might appear to be a fanatic of science (i.e. someone who gives a lot of weight to that course of study and thinks/acts accordingly). I think his assertions are founded on the scriptures of God's word.
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Postby abacab66 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:06 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by abacab66[/i]
<br>That was abou the most ridiculous line of reasoning I've ever heard. I'd laugh but I truly feel sorry for you. You are so misguided in you religious ideaologies that YOU are blind to obvious truths. I see no reason to continue this discussion with you as you are about the most hard headed person I've had the displeasure of being spoken at!
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If it is rediculous as you say then you should be able to refute what I said in detail with the utmost of ease.
[/quote]
OK, challenge accepted, but you'll have to wait until sometime tomorrow as it is 11PM on the east coast and I'm going to bed. Patience is a virtue[;)]
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Postby KYYX4ever » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:06 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
<br>The Problem with you KYYX is that you are way too proud, too cool to admit your a sinner and that you need someone else beside you to deal with your sin and guilt. Now that is evil!
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mwaha ha ha aha ...[}:)]
excuse me while I go SIN all over the place now.....[}:)]
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Postby Quite Life » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:15 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by KYYX4ever[/i]
<br>Good grief!
I thought as much.
Tolerance, schmolerance....if a person believes, then they believe. There is nothing "objective" about belief, and no church can claim that there is. Therefore, I would say your argument is just as silly as mine (as you say), b/c belief is subjective. Your god is subjective. He/she/it can't be proven. That's why it's called "faith."
Never mind--husband came home with dinner. Mavs are up by 55-51. The Mavs have faith that they're gonna win !
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In your notion of faith I guess yes it is. And by your standard your athiesm is a huge blind silly leap in the dark.

But the Christian notion of faith is not a blind leap the empty promise of the athiests like KYYX, but faith is informed by history and facts like the resurrection of Christ these historical truths no one can take away. So in the Christian worldview Faith in married to historical facts. Athiest are just robbed by thier bankrupt notion of what their blind leap of faith is.
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Postby Quite Life » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:16 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by abacab66[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by abacab66[/i]
<br>That was abou the most ridiculous line of reasoning I've ever heard. I'd laugh but I truly feel sorry for you. You are so misguided in you religious ideaologies that YOU are blind to obvious truths. I see no reason to continue this discussion with you as you are about the most hard headed person I've had the displeasure of being spoken at!
[/quote]

If it is rediculous as you say then you should be able to refute what I said in detail with the utmost of ease.
[/quote]
OK, challenge accepted, but you'll have to wait until sometime tomorrow as it is 11PM on the east coast and I'm going to bed. Patience is a virtue[;)]
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Cool glad to meet someone willing to take up a Berean challenge.

Good Night abacab66
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Postby beatschool » Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:53 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by beatschool[/i]
<br>Quite Life, you aren't one of those guys that protest at military funerals, are you? Your self-righteousness mimics theirs.
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No way that is sooo cheeeezeee and wrong. Only Liberals do that. I am socially conservitive.[:)][/quote]

Sorry to burst your bubble of false pride and misinformation, but you need to look up the Reverend Phelps. Here. This should help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev._Fred_Phelps

He spends his free time protesting homosexuals too. You guys should get in touch with each other. You might be soul mates.
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Postby beatschool » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:03 pm

I think Quite Life should go to hell just because his spelling makes my head hurt.
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Postby hexicon » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:09 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote]<
You mean like this lovely quote from GW?

"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

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This is a little hard for me to do, but in fairness to the Shrub (gulp), it's worth clarifying that this statement was made in 1987 by the first President Bush, while he was VP, and not by W. I had always assumed it was W myself (because it sounds like something he'd say, dammit) but Mr. Hex asked for some proof, and I was wrong.
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Postby beatschool » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:13 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
BTW Beatschool I will be joining my church this Saturday as we go and pass out bible tracks and witness the gospel to the homosexuals at the gay pride parade in San Francisco. We will share with them the good news of Jesus and the gospel and that by God's grace homosexuals can be free from the terrible bondage of homosexual sin. Afterward we'll go back to Berkeley to Triple Rock and kick down a couple beers.
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I think most of you are probably going to do some advance scouting for your future moments of weakness. A fresh image of a guy in leather buttless chaps probably goes a long way in the imagination on the long, cold nights when you guys are having to guard the religious compound, I mean, "church".
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Postby The_Freeman » Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:59 pm

Dinosaurs.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:28 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by hexicon[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote]<
You mean like this lovely quote from GW?

"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

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This is a little hard for me to do, but in fairness to the Shrub (gulp), it's worth clarifying that this statement was made in 1987 by the first President Bush, while he was VP, and not by W. I had always assumed it was W myself (because it sounds like something he'd say, dammit) but Mr. Hex asked for some proof, and I was wrong.
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Wow. I had always seen it attributed to GW. Thanks. I'm sure W believes it too though. The shit doesn't fall far from the asshole.
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Postby eight6 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:12 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by beatschool[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
BTW Beatschool I will be joining my church this Saturday as we go and pass out bible tracks and witness the gospel to the homosexuals at the gay pride parade in San Francisco. We will share with them the good news of Jesus and the gospel and that by God's grace homosexuals can be free from the terrible bondage of homosexual sin. Afterward we'll go back to Berkeley to Triple Rock and kick down a couple beers.
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I think most of you are probably going to do some advance scouting for your future moments of weakness. A fresh image of a guy in leather buttless chaps probably goes a long way in the imagination on the long, cold nights when you guys are having to guard the religious compound, I mean, "church".
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LOL! If only Jesus could free Quite Life from the bondage of assininity.

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Postby egg-roger » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:34 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Quite Life[/i]
<br>Bible believing reformed Christianity is not about being self-righteous as you claim, but just the opposite.
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I don't claim that Bible believing Christians (of which I am one, your arrogant judgements notwithstanding) are self-righteous. I claim that YOU are self-righteous. You dismiss those of dissimilar crede and politics as "cultists" and "Jesus haters" while proclaiming your own "saved in Christ" status. You presume to represent my belief in salvation as requiring something other than the Atonement of Jesus Christ. WRONG. Listen up, my born-again buddy, you are NOT qualified to judge the beliefs of other sincere Christians (and no, neither YOU nor your church get to decide who are the true followers of Christ) no matter how much vile, distorted propaganda you have heard/read.
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Postby KYYX4ever » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:16 am

What egg-roger has just stated is what I was trying to get at earlier--that how can "one" church--yours, QL, decide who's a Christian and who is not ? That's what I don't get.[?]

BTW, I'm not actually an atheist. I'm not anything. Maybe close to agnosticism. I have always maintained that just b/c this religious stuff doesn't exist for me, doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all, for others.[:)]
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