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Dubya vs. Reagan

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Dubya vs. Reagan

Postby tatermaven » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:33 am

Dubya just doesn't seem to inspire as much vitriol among bands.

Remember all the by-the-numbers hardcore bands that sprang up in the 80s solely for the purpose of vilifying Reagan?

Plus the Ramones had "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg," of course, and the Dead Kennedys had...well, pretty much every song.

Maybe I'm just not "hip" to what "the kids" are listening to nowadays. Or maybe the youngsters have just gotten apathetic.
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Postby UniversalRadio » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:00 am

I've noticed this too and I sometimes can't understand why. In the 80's people were jaded politically and now people are just plain jaded. In the 90's kids were self destructive. I guess I'm too old to know what the kids are thinking now (I'm 35) but it doesn't seem like they are thinking much. I think the 2000 election jaded voters extremely, when it was finally noticed that the electoral college decides who is prez, not us voters. Maybe we are just too tired to think about it anymore. I for one am not. I wrote a song called "Bushwhacked" on late election night 2004. "I'm gonna fuck you motherfuckers for another 4 years!" But anyway music doesn't seem to be about anything important anymore like it did in the 80's.

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Postby toe_jam_on_toast » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:05 am

green day have done american idiot....but for now thats all i can think of...theres probably loads of bands and songs but theyre either underground or just not on a major label...


i dunno...90's kids self destructive? we liked our nihilism...till it killed us...

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Postby plagiarism » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:11 am

There's also Rage Against the Machine/Audioslave.

I think bands that want to protest something don't use names anymore. They become dated more quickly. For example, the Rolling Stones' "Sweet Neo-con".
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Postby WolverineSyr » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:33 am

I think what happened to the Dixie Chicks is a good indicator of how things have changed. I don't blame artists for being reluctant to speak out.

Freedom of speech my ass.
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Postby tiger_mn » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:53 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by WolverineSyr[/i]
<br>I think what happened to the Dixie Chicks is a good indicator of how things have changed. I don't blame artists for being reluctant to speak out.

Freedom of speech my ass.
[/quote]

I will fight to the death for your ass' right to Free Speech.
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Postby toe_jam_on_toast » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:57 am

my ass frequently speaks out...

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Postby KYYX4ever » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:16 am

oh, totally. It's funny, b/c listening to 80s punk in the early & mid-80s is what turned me against Reagan. I used to have this pin with Reagan's picture with a red slash thru it, ha ha. I was pretty young and stupid (we all were, I guess), but I Knew nothing about politics at first when I began wearing that pin. It was just hearing anti-Reagan sentiment in punk music that first exposed me to this. It led to me educating myself about politics, the GOP, Reagan, etc. In a way, I credit those anti-establishment punk songs--Dead Kennedys, Fear, Black Flag, the Dickies, etc.--to the beginnings of my political education, even up thru today!
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Postby tatermaven » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:28 am

As D. Boon of The Minutemen sang, "If Reagan played disco, he'd shoot it to shit. You can't disco in jackboots!"

But yeah, definitely all the anti-conservative sentiment from those early- to mid-80s punk and hardcore bands certainly shaped my budding political views as well.

Remember Old Skull (the punk band whose members were all younger than 10)? "I hate you, Ronald Reagan!"
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