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Your Honor...can I serve that in The Bahamas?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:22 pm
by eight6
Why have jails at all? This asshat gets to choose his sentence? WTF!!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

The alternative sentence was one year of being a 'love toy' in a U.S. prison.

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I was smellin' alright, and lookin' alright.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:26 am
by My Aural Stimulator
His wife and children must be so proud.

I liked this part from the article: "We'll take any available steps to ensure the safety of our citizens and children, including asking the police and federal authorities for assistance." (Brendan Crawley, a spokesman for the attorney general's office in Ontario)

So, how is letting him serve probation in Canada ensuring safety of children there? If this crime happened on U.S. soil, then he needs to reap the consequences of U.S. law. I think he would be the crown jewel at Bendover Prison.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:51 am
by eight6
[quote][i]Originally posted by My Aural Stimulator[/i]

I liked this part from the article: "We'll take any available steps to ensure the safety of our citizens and children, including asking the police and federal authorities for assistance." (Brendan Crawley, a spokesman for the attorney general's office in Ontario)

So, how is letting him serve probation in Canada ensuring safety of children there?
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Typical Canadian wimpass response...it of couse does nothing to protect anyone other than "Mr. Creep".

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If this crime happened on U.S. soil, then he needs to reap the consequences of U.S. law. I think he would be the crown jewel at Bendover Prison.
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Brings to mind a guy named Charles Ng:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ng

Man, the fight that went on here over him...how can we send this poor soul back to the U.S. where he will certainly be put to death? We need to show that Canada is compassionate. We have too many misguided dunderheads here.

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I was smellin' alright, and lookin' alright.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:29 am
by British
[quote]Originally posted by eight6
[br]Why have jails at all? This asshat gets to choose his sentence? WTF!!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

The alternative sentence was one year of being a 'love toy' in a U.S. prison.

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I was smellin' alright, and lookin' alright.
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That's about as lenient of a sentence he would get if he was a female teacher, same crime. Sooooo.. I guess the sentencing was on par?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:41 am
by eight6
[quote][i]Originally posted by British[/i]
<br>[quote]Originally posted by eight6
[br]Why have jails at all? This asshat gets to choose his sentence? WTF!!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

The alternative sentence was one year of being a 'love toy' in a U.S. prison.

<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/dbince/eight.gif"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/dbince/number6.gif">

I was smellin' alright, and lookin' alright.
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That's about as lenient of a sentence he would get if he was a female teacher, same crime. Sooooo.. I guess the sentencing was on par?
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The sentence is without doubt lenient: what irks me is the fact he has any say in the nature of his sentence.

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I was smellin' alright, and lookin' alright.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:19 am
by SomebodySomewhere
[quote]"We have to look at whether this person is a danger to Canada," said Green. "It appears that a judge in the United States doesn't seem to think so."[/quote]

Neither do I. A 15-year-old (particularly an apparently slutty one) isn't a "child." I'm more offended by the conflict of interest and the adultery than the age difference. If the age of consent in Canada is 14, he should have saved himself the trouble and gone a little north of the border to begin with.

Defendants get to choose their sentences all the time. It's called plea bargaining.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:11 am
by eight6
[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]



Defendants get to choose their sentences all the time. It's called plea bargaining.
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That's a helluva plea bargain...basically let off the hook. The guy should have to spend at least one month in the Ass Spread Inn.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:17 am
by My Aural Stimulator
So, basically, one can fiddle around with an underage girl and the authorities are all "hmmm...whatever." But show a dog some lovin' and then it's a felony.

Sing it with me now: God bless the USA!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:22 am
by eight6
[quote][i]Originally posted by My Aural Stimulator[/i]
<br>So, basically, one can fiddle around with an underage girl and the authorities are all "hmmm...whatever." But show a dog some lovin' and then it's a felony.

Sing it with me now: God bless the USA!
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LOL! True.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:23 pm
by SomebodySomewhere
[quote]That's a helluva plea bargain...basically let off the hook. The guy should have to spend at least one month in the Ass Spread Inn.[/quote]

Did I misread that article? He was getting probation anyway, correct? You're Canadian. Would he have even been on the hook in the first place if he was making out with her there? You'd think the U.S. would be happy to be rid of him, since the very notion that teenagers might actually have sex drives is something that's verboten in this country.

This doesn't belie how laughable it is to want to be closer to his wife after he was caught cheating on her. Unless they're Mormon. And even then.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:48 pm
by eight6
[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
<br>[quote]That's a helluva plea bargain...basically let off the hook. The guy should have to spend at least one month in the Ass Spread Inn.[/quote]

Did I misread that article? He was getting probation anyway, correct? You're Canadian. Would he have even been on the hook in the first place if he was making out with her there? You'd think the U.S. would be happy to be rid of him, since the very notion that teenagers might actually have sex drives is something that's verboten in this country.

This doesn't belie how laughable it is to want to be closer to his wife after he was caught cheating on her. Unless they're Mormon. And even then.
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Not sure if the article mentioned it but if he stayed in the U.S. his sentence was one year.

http://news.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/World/ ... yline=True

My guess is he would have done some jail time here...the ususal routine is you serve a portion of your sentence then get it reduced for good behavior. Good behavior here is anything this side of Hannibal Lechter.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am
by SomebodySomewhere
[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>Not sure if the article mentioned it but if he stayed in the U.S. his sentence was one year.

http://news.sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/World/ ... yline=True[/quote]

Ah, that's different.

[quote]In Canada, the age of consent is 14 years unless sex occurs during a relationship of trust or dependency - such as in a teacher-student relationship - in which case the age of consent rises to 18.[/quote]

Disregard what I wrote about that, too. The original article I read certainly didn't touch on this. (No pun intended.)

I agree then. He shouldn't have been exiled, and the judge shouldn't have given him that choice. This is putting aside my feelings on how the age of consent is a little bit older than it ought to be.