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The trailer on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPB_6HiA_Q

They supposedly even reshot some scenes, like of Zhora crashing through the glass - terrible editing in the first one where you could clearly see things like blood bags and the stunt woman and Joanna Cassidy being interspliced. I'm going to be pretty jealous of my old SoCal homies if goes on a limited theatrical release at places like the Cinerama Dome. Uh-oh, I feel the inner geek getting ready to explode out of me. [:I]

It's coming soon...

The 60 sec trailer leads off this site:

http://bladerunnerthemovie.warnerbros.com/

After it, you can click on Menu > Gallery > Video to see a bigger one. Kinda exciting. Not headphones to sexy new wave music exciting mind you...but still.

WOW, I really want that five disc edition but that's alot of moolah. A heck of a jump up from the four disc set which I'll most likely end up buying. Granted, the fiver does have alot more.....am I the only one that hates merchandising? [;)]

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This is going to be soooo great. It will be fun to dish about it after we've all seen it.

"I'm subversive as hell!" ~Theodor Geisel

I hear that to get the current generation interested they are changing the soundtrack. Now you can enjoy some Jay-Z to Deckard chasing Zhora through the streets!!!![:o)]

One of my favorite movies done by one of the best directors today Ridley Scott.
The soundtrack by Vangelis fits so well into the film. Some great lines too, "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe" "If your not a cop Your little people" "Time to die" Those lines and many others in the film will be etched in my mind forever.

<p align="justify">I'd consider it bad news if they're gonna reshoot and redo entire sequences of the original in order to "improve" the movie (which really doesn't). This is the same shit lucas pulled with [i]Star Wars[/i] and [i]THX-1138[/i], with abyssmal results.

<p align="justify">However, I'm gonna be there for a screening, if time permits[}:)]

Recent interview with Ridley Scott:

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/holl ... laderunner

I'm glad I live near NYC, so I can catch it on the big screen (should be showing in limited theatres).

[i]> I'd consider it bad news if they're gonna reshoot and redo entire sequences of the original in order to "improve" the movie (which really doesn't). This is the same shit lucas pulled with Star Wars and THX-1138, with abyssmal results[/i]

But the difference is that the original is available, and in anamorphic WS.

Redoing isn't entirely bad. The "enhanced" Star Trek original series has been well done. There's rumours that they're going to give TNG the same type of treatment, since the CG in that series has really dated.

Here's a review of the Final Cut:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/ ... lfilm.html

I think Bill Hunt creamed in his pants several time when writing the article.

Saw it last night at The Landmark in Santa Monica, CA. Apparently one of only two venues on the West Coast to feature the movie (Seattle is the other).

The Director's Cut didn't have many discernable differences from the original version. The narration voice over is gone, thank God. And the scene where Zhora gets shot matches up much better. I couldn't tell if they reshot it or just revamped the old footage, but it no longer stands out an obvious stunt double taking the fall. Great to see again.

BTW if you get a chance to go to The Landmark, do it. "Closer" will be playing there soon. Tickets are 11 bucks but you get assigned seating, plush retractable leather seats and a live announcement from the usher explaining a bit about the film and reminding all to turn of their cell phones and PDAs before the movie starts.


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I prefer the voiceover version. It's the one I first saw. Director's Cut = zzzzzz. Wasn't fond of the unicorn bit, either.

Caught it yesterday in NYC. I thought it was a completely kick-ass, immersive experience to see it again in a theater. There are so many cool new things in the movie for an avid fan to notice and enjoy, but its original flavor never wavers to let on that this is an overt redo. Very deftly done. Dunno if that makes sense, but I think it was critical to not mess with the original vibe.

The biggest thing I noticed wasn't any individual change but how perfectly crafted every single scene was in that movie. You can totally see how Ridley Scott must have been a massive megalomaniacal pain-in-the-ass during filming. But the payoff is that each scene could almost be an individual focus of study in a film class. Every set detail, the soundtrack, the richness of character development...completely fucking mesmerizing. It really is "of a single piece".

Lots of cool small edits too as noted in many of the formal reviews. I've probably forgotten some by now. Ones I noticed:

- greatly extended unicorn scene: starts with Deckard staring off his piano then cuts into the unicorn dream, cuts back out to him still staring, then back to the scene again. Really emphasizes that he's dreaming of electric sheep...um, unicorn.
- the Zhora shooting was perfectly done. It didn't feel "redone" at all. Really really dramatic in the theater too.
- Batty saying "I want more life...father." Him saying "fucker" never seemed to make much sense in the original, except to add more menace.
- the dove flying off at the end of the movie: nicely matted into the actual movie surroundings now
- just a few more bits of air traffic in some FX scenes: this made the whole movie seem more populated and real. Ditto with the sheeting rain that wasn't there in some of the flying scenes.
- extended street scenes, especially the one with the dancers in hockey masks: didn't really add anything to the movie but kinda cool.
- tons of small dialogue adds or fixes: Hassan's lips actually match what he's saying; the attendant at Kowalski's apartment says "Kowalski" as he lets Deckard in; Batty's saying "Kinship" as he grabs Deckard on the roof seems clearer.

Finally, I can't tell if Deckard looking at Rachele's "childhood" picture was any different or if it was just clearer because of the dark theater and great sound system, but it sure seemed a lot clearer that the picture just slightly moves and you hear the sounds of kids playing. The original voiceover definitely wiped out that whole effect. I think it's super dramatic now. I don't think there's any question about the voiceover or no-voiceover choice anymore. It seems widely documented that the studio put that in to help out the "stupid" audience, but it's a classic subtraction by addition - it was intrusive, almost like someone telling you "Hey, this is a movie" (okay, I know it is), and it made you miss a lot of the director's intent to focus on what's actually happening in the scene. But hey, if you prefer the voiceover, I guess you're validating the studios' impressions of the typical audience. [}:)]

Massive BR geek here obviously. Sorry to gush. [:I]

[i]But hey, if you prefer the voiceover, I guess you're validating the studios' impressions of the typical audience.[/i]

I've seen the voiceover version so many times before the Director's Cut came out that it's difficult to accept a new version. It's like accepting Lucas's new versions. Mind you, I've only seen the Director's Cut maybe twice.

I'm curious as to what the percentages are of people who prefer the version they saw first.