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It is 100% wrong to tag people by race or back round. Thats it. If you tag them, you can judge them or form an opinion because of that. When there is equality you can't play the race card. You might think it is ok because you were just saying good stuff about them. Thats like wow, what a good actor...and he is black, thats so nice. It is wrong!




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Here is another, he drives surpisingly well for an Asian.

Fine, you cast Jon Heder as the lead in Menace II Society II.

Good for you. That was very white of you to say that philly. [:p]

Phil, I completely accept that what you're saying is 100% sincere and valid - no arguments there. At the same time, I can't help but feel that a statement like this on a web forum can't possibly encompass the whole of a complex issue, not that you're even trying to. So I'm just thinking out loud here...

"When there is equality"...we're just not there yet, and even if we were, every race or ethnicity would still have some different historical, societal or cultural context associated with it. Blacks were not a mainstream presence in Hollywood. Yeah, it makes for an unbelievably lame NWO thread, but hey, I'm not gonna say it's not a valid question in the context of where Blacks have been. On the flip side, I'm also not going to flame some cops for racially profiling some young Black men racing from a shooting scene. Is this racist? I don't know. A racial description of someone is one element of a description of them, among many other more important ones of course.

Should race ever be used negatively, like in consideration for jobs or housing? Of course not. It probably still would be though, so there's still laws against it and people still "tag" people in the process of talking about it. If race weren't mentioned or accounted for at all, I think we're still racist enough that it would just all go underground. So can it then be acceptable consideration for race-specific social networks, media outlets, marketing, or even casual conversation? As a (mostly) White male who has likely benefitted from a White-dominated society, I don't think I'm necessarily the one to declare for or against that. I'm inclined to object to it, but in the back of my mind, there's this nagging feeling it would be premature and self-congratulatory to say we've come that far as a society.

Look at the Obama thing. No way in hell are we going to ignore that he's Black. Racists won't vote for him because of it. I'll bet you that some White folks who would vote him might do so from a consciously or subconsciously self-gratifying motivation, like "Hey, I'm showing the world how enlightened I am by voting for that Black man." Of course there's plenty of genuine yes and no voters for a lot other reasons too, but I think it's probably futile to rail against any sort of tagging at this point in our society, good or bad.

I also hope I don't sound p.c. because I am the most anti-p.c. person you will ever meet. I'm just voicing how it sucks and some day hope it will be better.
I agree with Blir 100% on his points. You bring up a great one:racial profiling by police. Good point. In Israel, they make no apologies for profiling against terrorists.
Anyway Thank GOD I live in NY!There are people from every country in the world living here and for the most part in peace. OK I am done. Go fuck yourselves you racist bastards![;)] See the winkie? That means I'm using sarcasm.




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Thanks, Philly. You're a credit to your race.



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All this thinking's given me a wicked craving to kick back with a Negra.

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The only dark Mexican beer I think...and a damn good one too. Not just saying that because I'm friends with their east coast distributor either. Many a time we've sat watching football, waxing poetic about our Negra-lovin' tastes. Oh great, now I gots ta get me a Negra RIGHT NOW!

Now I take offense!The best dark beer in the world is Sam Adams Black Lager! You won't be able to drink anything else.




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[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]


Look at the Obama thing. No way in hell are we going to ignore that he's Black. Racists won't vote for him because of it. I'll bet you that some White folks who would vote him might do so from a consciously or subconsciously self-gratifying motivation, like "Hey, I'm showing the world how enlightened I am by voting for that Black man." Of course there's plenty of genuine yes and no voters for a lot other reasons too, but I think it's probably futile to rail against any sort of tagging at this point in our society, good or bad.
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Actually Blir , Obama is only half black. His mother is white .

[quote][i]Originally posted by phillyidol[/i]
<br>Now I take offense!The best dark beer in the world is Sam Adams Black Lager! You won't be able to drink anything else.




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In the Philippines, its Cerveza Negra! [;)]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Spit[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]Actually Blir , Obama is only half black. His mother is white .
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In many peoples' eyes, that's like being half pregnant.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Spit[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]Actually Blir , Obama is only half black. His mother is white .
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In many peoples' eyes, that's like being half pregnant.
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Good point.

I remember Jesse Jackson saying Obama was "acting like he's white" because he wasn't up in arms and protesting for the Jena 6 in Louisiana.