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It's finally happened - the fucking retards at the RIAA have stated, in court and for the record, that you can no longer rip CDs to mp3 for your own personal use. Further, they've sued someone for doing so.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00693.html

Oh HELL no. There ain't NO way those POS pigs/corporate slime will EVER be able to get away with that kind of crap without it seriously contravening personal property rights. Shitheads should know that if you buy a CD, you fucking OWN that CD and you have every right to do with it what you will. Also, they DON'T speak for the recording artists but rather for the record company dickweeds who've always tried to find ways of screwing both the recording artists and the music-buying public.

The RIAA: Making the MPAA look good (and pro-consumer) since time began, practically.

The Industry is too short sighted to realize that, by limiting copying of music for personal use, their product loses much of it's value. How many people would buy CDs if they couldn't transfer them to listen on their iPods, on their computers or keep a copy in their cars? Lessening the value by restricting use can only weaken demand, negatively effect sales and bottom line profit.

The RIAA's rabid enforcement tactics are a negative publicity nightmare. And their latest legal crusade may backfire- [i]"A series of court rulings over the last few decades that found no violation of copyright law in the use of VCRs and other devices to make personal copies for the purpose of making portable a legally obtained recording."[/i]



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[i]When you pry [b]my 500GB External HD[/b] from my paranoid, mentally disturbed, physically-abusive, cold, dead hand![/i]

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oh good grief.
Interesting that they pointed out in the article that these guys are "jealously trying to protect an old, behind-the-times system".(my paraphrase, not their's) Why ? Why don't they wake up ?

LOL! Only 2,000 mp3's! [B)] (This is not me by the way)



Pretty soon the legal fees will start surpassing revenues and the lawsuits will cease.


This is why I have erased all the mp3's on my computer as to avoid legal hassles (I do have the Zill Bros. song though, That song Rocks and should be released!!![:D]).

Now, I only buy used CD's from my local store, you know, the "used" promotional copies that some schlepp from the record label tried to bribe some radio station with but the radio stations playlist was so tight there was no way they were adding it so they sold it to the record store.

The trouble with these educated, degreed lawyers at the RIAA is that they are too right-brained (or is it left? I forget). At any rate, they assume that if music wasn't shared between co-workers, neighbors, siblings, at your local library and/or on-line that the public-at-large would naturally just go out and buy it. They never, for one moment, consider the alternative- that the public-at-large would reluctantly just do without and simply continue listening to the radio.

Pretty soon you won't be able to go next door for a cup of sugar without being fined. :rolleyes:

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Huh uhh... not Katherine.

Also, I do not get the logistics of this. How do they "catch" people ripping their own CDs ? The article explicitly states that they can go after people who have ripped a copy of their own store-bought CD, even if it's just for personal use. How do they purport to go after that ? Like deethelurker said, that's some crazy privacy invasion issues.
Or, am I missing something and it's just those who keep mp3s on their computers ?[?]
In that case, how do they know you have mp3s on your computer ?[?]

Spy-ware bots? Maybe the RIAA will allow their people to surf music forums and download-sites and peer into user's computers for .mp3 files. Sounds just like something they would do.

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Huh uhh... not Katherine.

[quote][i]Originally posted by New Wave Dave[/i]
<br>Maybe the RIAA will allow their people to surf music forums and download-sites and peer into user's computers for .mp3 files. Sounds just like something they would do.


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They have actually been doing that for some time now.

Disturbing, to say the least. But I'll pass on some links that were pointed out to me that may shed some light on the subject:

<a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/30/riaa-not-suing-over-cd-ripping-still-kinda-being-jerks-about-it/#comments">Engadget (also see some informative comments)</a>

<a href="http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20070828/atlantic-v-howell/">Digital Daily</a>

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<a href="http://www.omd-dvd.com/">Souvenir</a>, the OMD Documentary
<a href="http://www.omd.uk.com"> OMD Official Website</a>, home of the Official Forum
<a href="http://www.theblacksea.co.uk/forum/Blah.pl">Motion & Heart</a> unofficial fan forum

Hmmm,

Interesting reading DR. Especially this part:

"You can buy an audio CD and copy it as a backup audio CD (for example, to play in your car because you know that your car CD player "eats" discs), but you may not convert it into an MP3 because that transcoding into a new media format is not authorized by the copyright holder. If you want it in MP3 (or other audio format), you must buy it that way through their authorized distribution network (iTunes, etc.)"





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All the more reason to use FLAC .


[i]You can buy an audio CD and copy it as a backup audio CD (for example, to play in your car because you know that your car CD player "eats" discs), but you may not convert it into an MP3 because that transcoding into a new media format is not authorized by the copyright holder.[/i]

Yeah, but to get an accurate CD-DA copy, you need to rip it to .wav first, so isn't that a form of transcoding?

All this will do is create more "criminals".

And what of vinyl records? Can we be sued for transfering our records to digital, records that may have never been released on cd? How far will those fuckers go? Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em fuck 'em fuck 'em.

I'd have to do some research on this--I'm amazed this claim was made considering the precedence of Supreme Court Case rulings on video tapes and cassettes--but we are in an age where conglomerates own more and want a continued lock on everything and the Digital Copyright Millenium Act has been more of a nightmare to many more than anything (and as a librarian and a "failed" author, I can reassure you it's been a headache in MANY ways).

But I think it's really a no brainer that what you put on your own computer is yours--duh!--and considering Itunes policy of five computers can have their tunes, there's even leniency (within reason, I guess) to file sharing--if RIAA (and I wonder who they're fighting for really, anyway) gets away with this--it would be an absolute disaster not only to the consumer but to the artists themselves--because there'd be even less enthusiasm and people being more choosy purchasing--let alone trying to enforce people from putting music on computers--is that even realistically possible? It's time to tell the record companies to back off on this one--this is not helping their cause/concern. Especially since I think the current Itunes marketing strategy does seem to be working (though I pessimistically wonder how much goes back to the individual artist--less than one cent per purchase?)