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Postby enzfan » Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:28 am

Having Olbermann anchor your news at the Republican Convention would be akin to having Rush Limbaugh anchor someones at the Democratic Convention. The guy just can't objectively deliver the news he has to inject his political views into it.


MSNBC says Olbermann, Matthews won't anchor By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer
1 hour, 47 minutes ago


NEW YORK - MSNBC is replacing Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews as co-anchors of political night coverage with David Gregory, and will use the two newsmen as commentators.


The change reflects tensions between the freewheeling, opinionated MSNBC and the impartial newsgatherers at NBC News. Throughout the primaries and summer, MSNBC argued that Olbermann and Matthews could serve as dispassionate anchors on political news nights and that viewers would accept them in that role, but things fell apart during the conventions.

Gregory, the veteran Washington hand, will anchor MSNBC's coverage of the presidential and vice presidential debates and election night, network spokesman Jeremy Gaines said Sunday. The change was first reported by The New York Times.

The tipping point appears to have come during the GOP convention when Olbermann criticized MSNBC for showing a Sept. 11-themed video prepared by the Republicans.

MSNBC executives, who had publicly defended their anchors' roles while privately monitoring them throughout the political season, made the change over the weekend after discussions with Olbermann. Despite the controversy around him, Olbermann has been a hero with left-leaning viewers and keyed MSNBC's growth among coveted young viewers.

During her acceptance speech last week, Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin talked about the "Washington elite" not accepting her qualifications for the job. Some delegates on the convention floor began chanting, "N-B-C, N-B-C."

Olbermann began to have difficulty keeping his opinions in check, or simply stopped trying.

He sarcastically dismissed GOP pundit Pat Buchanan on the air after Buchanan said the Republicans had been enlivened by the entrance of a conservative Republican.

"Those reading US Weekly with the picture of her and her youngest daughter with the word `scandal' written across it won't be so happy," Olbermann said.

He expressed little sympathy at another point when GOP anger at rumors over the Internet about Palin were being discussed.

"We'll see if people feel sorry for unfounded rumors on the Internet," he said. "If that's the case, Senator Obama's probably standing up and cheering and waiting for people to feel sorry for him."

Perhaps most embarrassing, Joe Scarborough was discussing positive developments in John McCain's campaign at one point when Olbermann was heard on an offstage microphone saying: "Jesus, Joe, why don't you get a shovel?"

Scarborough, a former Republican congressman and host of MSNBC's "Morning Joe," got in another nasty on-air exchange with MSNBC reporter David Shuster, and Matthews snapped at Olbermann on-air when it appeared Olbermann was criticizing him for talking too much.

All the drama made MSNBC a punch line when top NBC anchor Brian Williams appeared on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" last week. "Is there no control?" Stewart asked him. "`Is it `Lord of the Flies?'"

A sheepish Williams said that every family has a dynamic of its own.

"But does MSNBC have to be the Lohans?" Stewart said.

Olbermann was in Denver during the Democratic national convention, but performed his co-hosting duties for the GOP convention in a New York studio. NBC President Steve Capus said the decision was not political, that Olbermann had been sent back to anchor coverage of Hurricane Gustav.

MSNBC's decision comes just before Olbermann's "Countdown" show is set to air, on Monday, his interview with Barack Obama. That will put Olbermann in direct competition with his nemesis, Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, who interviewed Obama last week and is airing a portion of it Monday in the same 8 p.m. EDT time slot.
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Postby NuWaveRx » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:12 am

Here's hoping this is followed up with Hannity being removed from Faux news and that idiot Glenn Beck being removed from CNN[}:)][:p]

OR

We could just learn to deal with opposing views to ours

Nah, neither are likely to happen.
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Postby SallyLightfoot » Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:32 am

"Having Olbermann anchor your news at the Republican Convention would be akin to having Rush Limbaugh anchor someones at the Democratic Convention."

A bad analogy that could only be made if you're ignorant of just how off-his-rocker the pill-poppin' smear merchant Limbaugh is.
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Postby MARV » Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:53 am

[i]Perhaps most embarrassing, Joe Scarborough was discussing positive developments in John McCain's campaign at one point when Olbermann was heard on an offstage microphone saying: "Jesus, Joe, why don't you get a shovel?"[/i]

Ridiculous. Olberman never could have said this. I know who the real knower of cynicism is.

[quote][i]Originally posted by NuWaveRx[/i]
<br>Here's hoping this is followed up with Hannity being removed from Faux news and that idiot Glenn Beck being removed from CNN[}:)][:p]

OR

We could just learn to deal with opposing views to ours

Nah, neither are likely to happen.
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NuWave, we can always stay positive [;)]
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Postby WoodlandParkPunk » Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:35 am

Olberman sucked on ESPN and he sucked on MSNBC.

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Postby WLIRRIP » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:49 pm

Well the way I understand it, comparing Matthews to, say, Hannity is not a fair or accurate comparison. As I understand him, Chris Matthews has passed himself off as an OBJECTIVE commentator, not a news analyst, e.g., like Hannity. The difference is that one is supposed to be purely non-partisan and objective. The latter can be laced with opinion. Limbaugh makes no bones about what he is, either. Matthews tho tried to pass himself off as non-partisan. This is the difference here.

BTW, Sean Hannity's being on Fox News is counterbalanced by his liberal partner, Alan Colmes. Both are unabashed partisans and share a single show designed to present both points of view. So again, your comparisons were totally inaccurate.

Personally, I don't have a problem with someone if they're open about their ideology -- left or right or center -- when they make their presentation. But when you pass yourself off as an objective and fair purveyor of the facts, but instead drip with partisanship, you've become a propagandist, mocking the very purposes the Founders had for setting up a free press here in the first place.

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Postby edisonoside » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:48 am

I like Olbermann..He is NOT controlled by the WhiteHouse like the others are.
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Postby bosten » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:03 am

Thank GOD MSNBC finally came to their far left/liberal senses....
the new name for MSNBC i heard was...."The Obama Network" !!
maybe now MSNBC will give fair coverage & the MSNBC anchors will leave all their far left/liberal/Obama is god attitudes (except for Joe !! at least he's a Rep in the middle)at home & be real anchors !!!!
GO FOX NEWS.................

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Postby NuWaveRx » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:03 am

Just to let you know Georgie, we've haven't forgotten you

http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24601

As a bonus, a humorous look at the new Faux news campaign posters, courtesy of the Propaganda Remix Project:

http://www.cafepress.com/warposter/89951
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Postby bosten » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:26 pm

Hey RX u should work for FOX NEWS.
better yet,,you'll need to stick with your far left goons @...MSNBC/CNN/NBC/CBS/ABC...can't 4get your fav...AIR AMERICA.....LOL

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Postby Rat_Scabies » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:26 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by SallyLightfoot[/i]
<br>"Having Olbermann anchor your news at the Republican Convention would be akin to having Rush Limbaugh anchor someones at the Democratic Convention."

A bad analogy that could only be made if you're ignorant of just how off-his-rocker the pill-poppin' smear merchant Limbaugh is.
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Is Limbaugh more "off his rocker" than Olberman?
better question...
Is Limbaugh more "off his rocker" than you?
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Postby SallyLightfoot » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:16 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Rat_Scabies[/i]
Is Limbaugh more "off his rocker" than Olberman?
better question...
Is Limbaugh more "off his rocker" than you?
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I don't care for Olberman's show, but I agree with his political commentary and harsh criticism of the Bush administration. So does roughly 70% of the US, and an even greater % of the rest of the world.

Limbaugh is a water-carrier for republican-party authoritarians and supporters of white male privilege. He's a consummate liar, hypocrite and pox on the body politic. By saying "off his rocker", I was inferring that followers/admirers of Limbaugh are beset with a worldview that is indistinguishable from a clinical mental disorder. I don't prefer the term because it's less direct than calling them douchebags outright, but I can tell from your rhetorical question that I should have followed my instincts and gone with the more honest/direct approach.
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