New Wave Outpost Forum

I usually stay out of most political discussions, but this year it's imperative that everybody (American, that is) get out and vote. Believe it or not, the deadline to register is [b] October 4th [/b]. (The registration has to be postmarked by that date.)

If you need some help on how to vote in your state, you can go here:
www.maps.google.com/vote (with some help from the League of Women Voters.) Give this info to anyone who needs it.

The system only works if you play along.

I don't even know you anymore.

"The system only works if you play along".

Sorry, no it doesn't. The Electoral College decides, not us.

An electoral college is a set of electors who are empowered to elect a candidate to a particular office. Often these electors represent different organizations or entities, with each organization or entity represented by a particular number of electors or with votes weighted in a particular way. Many times, though, the electors are simply important persons whose wisdom, it is hoped, would provide a better choice than a larger body. The system can ignore the wishes of a general membership, whose thinking need not be considered.

So where does my vote count? I could pick Obama but that doesn't mean that my vote counted for anything.

Someone convince me that I'm wrong.

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<br>I don't even know you anymore.
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Hilarious!!!

[quote]Originally posted by tiger_mn
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The system only works if you play along.
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This is the biggest problem with our "System". Everybody gets to vote. Seriously, I'll step out on a limb and say that a good portion of voters have little to no idea about the issues at hand and they could potentially decide our future???
They should stick to Dancing With The Stars

Nothing like rounding up the homeless in Ohio and shuttling them off to polling sites to vote. Where you can register and vote at the same time without producing a picture ID, all it takes is the last four of your social.

Acorn a bunch of criminals and very close associates of Obama.

1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS
'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'

By JEANE MacINTOSH Post Correspondent

PAWNS IN 'FRAUD': Freddie Johnson, yesterday in Cleveland, and Lateala Goins told of filling out voter registrations multiple times in the ACORN scandal revealed by The Post yesterday.

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

"Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.

Johnson used the same information on all of his registration cards, and officials say they usually catch and toss out duplicate registrations. But the practice sparks fear that some multiple registrants could provide different information and vote more than once by absentee ballot.

ACORN is under investigation in Ohio and at least eight other states - including Missouri, where the FBI said it's planning to look into potential voter fraud - for over-the-top efforts to get as many names as possible on the voter rolls regardless of whether a person is registered or eligible.

It's even under investigation in Bridgeport, Conn., for allegedly registering a 7-year-old girl to vote, according to the State Elections Enforcement Commission.

Meanwhile, a federal judge yesterday ordered Ohio's Secretary of State to verify the identity of newly registered voters by matching them with other government documents. The order was in response to a Republican lawsuit unrelated to the ACORN probe in Cuyahoga County, in which at least three people, including Johnson, have been subpoenaed.

Bribing citizens with gifts, property or anything of value is a fourth-degree felony in Ohio, punishable by up to 18 months in prison. And it's a fifth-degree felony - punishable by 12 months in jail - for a person to pay "compensation on a fee-per-registration" system when signing up someone to vote.

Johnson, who works at a cellphone kiosk in downtown Cleveland, said he was a sitting duck for the signature hunters, but was always happy to help them out in exchange for a smoke or a little scratch. He'd collected 10 to 20 cigarettes and anywhere from $10 to $15, he said.

The Cleveland voting probe, first reported by The Post yesterday, also focused on Lateala Goins, who said she put her name on multiple voter registrations. She guessed ACORN canvassers then put fake addresses on them. "You can tell them you're registered as many times as you want - they do not care," she said.

ACORN spokesman Kris Harsh said the group does not tolerate its workers paying people to sign the voter-registration cards.

ACORN's political wing has endorsed Barack Obama for president, but Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the Obama campaign in Ohio, said ACORN has no role in its get-out-the-vote drive.

During the primary season, however, the Obama camp paid another group, Citizen Service Inc., $832,598 for various political services, according to Federal Elections Commission filings. That group and ACORN share the same board of directors.

In Wisconsin yesterday, John McCain blasted ACORN.

"No one should be corrupting the most precious right we have, that is the right to vote," he said.

It's a right Johnson will exercise. "Yeah, I've registered enough - I might as well vote."

Ah yes, Jeane MacINTOSH, who contributes to that wonderful paper the New York Post, just a step above The National Enquirer.

From what I understand is Acorn hires part time workers every election cycle. Sometimes these workers register fake names as voters to get make their quotas. By law Acorn has to submit these registration forms and flags those they know are fake so voter officals can exclude them.

Do you think Obama is trying to rig the election?

No he is not your typical rigger.[:)]

<p align="justify">Hahaha. obama... don't vote for that rigger[}:)]

McCain is evil, I am convinced. He is clueless. Calling everyone 'my friends' repeatedly, and that shit fake smile that pops up delayed after he thinks he said something intelligent or witty, thus the delay, he's never really sure. He is so lost in contradictory loops it's ridiculous. Just my opinion.

CHUCK BALDWIN FOR PREZ!! [:)]