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128 kbps vs. 320kbps

Posted:
Thu May 07, 2009 11:54 am
by club80
There has been a lot of discussion about the quality of mp3 files lately. I can convert a 128kbps file to a 320kbps file easily using a software program called Switch.
Here's where I need technical help. Am I really converting the file to a higher quality file? Is there a difference in sound quality between my converted file and a MP3 that was converted directly into a 320kbps file from vinyl or tape?
Any light any of you expert techies can shed on the topic would be much appreciated.
We didn't sell a lot of records, but somehow we left an impression.
-Johnny Ramone-

Posted:
Thu May 07, 2009 12:42 pm
by MARV
You're better off using the original source material to create the 320 kbps file. Going from 128 to 320 will garner you zero improvement. In fact, you're actually making a worse file.
An mp3 is a compressed format. You'd be taking a compressed file and using it to make another compressed file. Think of a photocopy machine, and reducing a photograph to 50% and then taking that copy to make another one at 125%. It may be bigger but the quality is worse.
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Posted:
Thu May 07, 2009 1:21 pm
by eight6
[quote]Originally posted by club80
[br]There has been a lot of discussion about the quality of mp3 files lately. I can convert a 128kbps file to a 320kbps file easily using a software program called Switch.
Here's where I need technical help. Am I really converting the file to a higher quality file?
[/quote]
Agree with what marv said.
Of course, none of this applies if you are converting any AFTC song. These can only be improved by fashioning them into a crumpled heap ready for deposit into a garbage can.

Posted:
Thu May 07, 2009 8:08 pm
by club80
[quote][i]Originally posted by mar¡Ì[/i]
<br>You're better off using the original source material to create the 320 kbps file. Going from 128 to 320 will garner you zero improvement. In fact, you're actually making a worse file.
An mp3 is a compressed format. You'd be taking a compressed file and using it to make another compressed file. Think of a photocopy machine, and reducing a photograph to 50% and then taking that copy to make another one at 125%. It may be bigger but the quality is worse.
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Thanks, Marv!
That helps tremendously.
We didn't sell a lot of records, but somehow we left an impression.
-Johnny Ramone-

Posted:
Thu May 07, 2009 8:09 pm
by club80
[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote]Originally posted by club80
[br]There has been a lot of discussion about the quality of mp3 files lately. I can convert a 128kbps file to a 320kbps file easily using a software program called Switch.
Here's where I need technical help. Am I really converting the file to a higher quality file?
[/quote]
Agree with what marv said.
Of course, none of this applies if you are converting any AFTC song. These can only be improved by fashioning them into a crumpled heap ready for deposit into a garbage can.
[/quote]
Well, of course, but I already excluded AFTC from any consideration when I used the word "quality".
We didn't sell a lot of records, but somehow we left an impression.
-Johnny Ramone-

Posted:
Fri May 08, 2009 8:53 am
by obs
[i]> You're better off using the original source material to create the 320 kbps file. Going from 128 to 320 will garner you zero improvement. In fact, you're actually making a worse file.
An mp3 is a compressed format.[/i]
It's not that MP3s are compressed; the key is that it is a [b]lossy[/b] compression (as in loss of quality).
[i]> Is there a difference in sound quality between my converted file and a MP3 that was converted directly into a 320kbps file from vinyl or tape?[/i]
If you're going to digitize vinyl/cassettes, what I recommend that you do is to archive it in a [b]lossless[/b] format, such as FLAC (or you can keep it as an uncompressed file). With a modern computer, it takes very little time to convert FLAC -> MP3, and it's as good as creating the MP3s from the original source.
With data storage being so cheap, there's really no reason why your music shouldn't be archived in a lossless format, then converted to MP3, or whatever the format will be in the future.

Posted:
Fri May 08, 2009 11:58 am
by club80
Thanks obs. That's very helpful.
We didn't sell a lot of records, but somehow we left an impression.
-Johnny Ramone-