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Postby glokstadt » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:22 am

OK, I have to make up for the bad "Popcorn" post... so I'll be posting various remixes, first up:

The Robots (Ultimix - McCrown Mix)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/31671739c4befc/

Sex Objekt (Razormaid!)
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Postby glokstadt » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:53 am

Some more great mixes:

Neon Lights (Ton-Up Mix)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/31999341dd46c8/


Numbers (Wicked Mix)
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Postby glokstadt » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:58 am

I have this mislabeled as Das Model (Extended Version), but it's really a Megamix by some DJ service? Anyway, enjoy! "Music Non-Stop, Techno-Pop!!!"

Das Model (Megamix)
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Postby rotator » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:10 am

hey Glok ---I think that we have gone over this before...but what are the details on the never released 'Techno Pop' album from 1983....not a big fan of "fan" remixes
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Postby glokstadt » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:53 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by rotator[/i]
<br>hey Glok ---I think that we have gone over this before...but what are the details on the never released 'Techno Pop' album from 1983....not a big fan of "fan" remixes
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There was supposed to have been an LP named "Techno Pop" released between 1981s "Computer World" (German title: "Computerwelt") and 1986s Electric Café...

From a site:

"Do any copies of the album Technopop exist?

No, this album was never put together. Technopop was the album which Kraftwerk started work on as the follow-up to the 1981 album Computer World. However, work on this project was interrupted a number of times, not least by a cycling accident which befell Ralf Hütter. As a result of these interruptions, Technopop was aborted and the material reworked. Technopop's track listing was to have included 'Techno Pop', 'Sex Object', 'The Telephone Call' and ' Tour de France.'

A demo version of the song Techno Pop and a demo of Sex Object have appeared on several bootleg CDs, but no finished recordings of any Technopop album track was ever given by Kraftwerk to the record company, and none has ever been released, even as a bootleg (despite what some bootleggers may claim).

Some readers, reluctant to let go of their hope of one day finding a bootleg copy of Technopop, have drawn my attention to an interview in Sound On Sound magazine, in which former band member Karl Bartos appears, on first reading, to confirm the existence of the album. Here's what he said:

" First of all, after we did the worldwide tour in '81, Ralf had a bicycle accident, and he almost died. He fractured his skull and was away for nearly a year. [...] That was the time when we did ' Tour De France', which was supposed to be the first single off Technopop. The single came out, but then this accident happened and it took us a year to continue. Then we got a little bit lost in technology, to be honest. Suddenly, in the mid-'80s, all this digital equipment appeared, including sampling [...] So we had to step back and think it all over, incorporate MIDI and sampling, and a lot of other stuff.
When the Technopop record was eventually finished, Ralf flew to New York and mixed it at The Powerstation. The sleeve and everything was done, but Ralf felt insecure about it, and thought we should do the whole production again in New York and call it Electric Cafe, so we did. I think it was a mistake, but that's just my point of view. I mean, it's OK like it is now [...] but I think we should have released the Technopop version, because it's much better. Somehow, it's now available as a bootleg record... "

I think on the latter point, Herr Bartos is almost certainly speaking from hearsay. Bands usually get to hear about bootlegs from their fans (certainly not from the bootleggers!), so when he says "somehow, it's now available as a bootleg" this is almost certainly just a repetition of a rumour which has become common enough to be taken as fact - even by one of the artists involved.

Nevertheless, in order for Bartos to accept even the possibility of there being a bootleg of Technopop, there would of course need to be a completed Technopop album in the first place! So, why did he talk of there being such an album? It can be seen from careful reading of the above quote that the time between Ralf Hütter's recuperation and his flight to the New York mixing studio was spent taking a new, digital approach to the material; there is no doubt that most, if not all, of this reworking took place at the group's studio in Düsseldorf. We read from the interview, "Ralf flew to New York and mixed it at The Powerstation. The sleeve and everything was done, but Ralf felt insecure about it, and thought we should do the whole production again in New York and call it Electric Café, so we did" (my emphasis). So the hold-up this time was due not to a wish to completely rework the material, but just to redo the final production stage.

So I think it can be seen that there was the original, analogue Technopop project (presumably very similar in style to the demos of the tracks 'Technopop' and 'Sex Object' which have appeared on several bootleg CDs), and then a completely reworked, digital version (which Kraftwerk initially still called Technopop!) that required further remix/production work before Hütter was happy to release it - under the new title Electric Café.

If my interpretation is correct, there is little contradiction in what Bartos said in the interview, just ambiguity: when he talks of the album 'Technopop' he appears to be talking of the entire Technopop / Electric Café project up until the final remastering, not - as Kraftwerk fans usually mean - just the original album of analogue material."

You can click here, it's an FAQ link: http://kraftwerk.hu/faq/recordings.html#technopop

Here's the cover of the ill fated album:

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Postby rotator » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:02 am

thanks Glok !
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Postby tenohtwo » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:24 pm

Here is the Techno Pop demo of "Sex Object":

http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f= ... 187fbfb58a

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Postby glokstadt » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:28 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by tenohtwo[/i]
<br>Here is the Techno Pop demo of "Sex Object":

http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f= ... 187fbfb58a

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Thanks so much 1002! Anyone have the other two unreleased demos???



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Postby Opera Prima » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:52 am

I think I have the demo version of "Techno Pop". I'll check tomorrow.
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Postby Opera Prima » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:43 am

I guess this is the demo version of Techno pop since I had it labeled as "1983 version".

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 9B0DD4DAD6
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Postby Synthpopfan » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:04 am

Thanks for posting.
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Postby Opera Prima » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:35 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Synthpopfan[/i]
<br>Thanks for posting.

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You're welcome.
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