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Re-Flex - Politics Of Dancing 12inch and rares

Posted:
Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:23 am
by 1980-F
Hi all!
You've helped me a lot in the past with finding some rare stuff, maybe it'll also work with this one before I go buying some old vinyls on eBay.
I'm looking for all non-album stuff of RE-FLEX, in particular I'd like to know if the US 12inch version is different from the album version, which was (to my knowledge) identical to the european 12inch version.
There is a bootleg collection of most of this stuff (also the unreleased 2nd album "Humanication") available at Saltykas Blog
http://saltyka.blogspot.com, but some of the vinyl rips could be better and the mentioned 12inch version (if it is really existing) is missing.
I'm looking forward to your posts.
As a thank you here's the 7inch mix of "How much longer" - including vocals by Sting and the only song of the second album, which was officially released:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 8022E1467D
Hey Frayo - I'm very curious about for your stuff!

Posted:
Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:54 am
by Frayo
Wait for me to get back online after work tonight.
I am the RE-FLEX god of this board.
I contact the members and have their unreleased materials and EVERYTHING.
I was the first person to find the album copy that these guys are distributing nowadays.
They are all the same....as far as I can tell.
The UK, US, Album versions all appear to be the same. I have hoardes of Re-Flex material...and nothing really appears to be different.
Thos vinyl rips were done by some dude that lives down the street from me....muh bad.
The only thing that is missing from that blog list is a version of Flex It, Love (Or Life) Is Too Dangerous, and Revolution Now.
There are rumors that a 7" version of Sensitive was pressed...but I have yet to hear of it.
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Posted:
Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:55 pm
by 1980-F
I found a 7" with Sensitive/Jungle on ebay, which has a sticker on it, that the song appeared in the German TV series "Derrick". I've just bought it. I'll let you know if the versions on it are different from the album versions in any way...

Posted:
Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:22 pm
by IWantMyMTV
Hey Fray!
What version of 'Flex It' are you looking for?
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Posted:
Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:30 am
by zill
This thread is amazing, thanks 1980-f for the blog link.
I had RE-FLEX on cassette and played it until it was done in. I loved the A-side especially. Haven't heard these songs for 20 years and they still sound great, an under-appreciated album to say the least. The rarities are a real bonus.
Thanks!

Posted:
Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:06 pm
by marie3
Frayo, what happened to you?
Are you going to share some of your Reflex knowledge with us?
I'm interested in hearing some of their unreleased stuff.
[:)]

Posted:
Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:47 am
by 1980-F
To bring this opic up again:
The Sensitive/Jungle 7" which I found at ebay has arrived and the versions are identical to those from the album.
Frayo:
You wanted to share some of your Re-Flex stuff with us!?

Posted:
Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:50 am
by Frayo
Final exams again...
International Trade...and Industrial Finance Systems....
A, B (respectively).
Due to the bureaucracy (and my bad spelling, Im sure) of the school system, I am homeless for 10 days...as of 2 days ago.
I was really busy..then I lost my internet..and my place to stay.
So Im around today, for this dude Im loitering with...has dissapeared (he left at 10am..I was too drunk then to know why)..so Im mooching his computer.
Sorry for vanishing.
What would you like to know?
I mean I could write for pages...
They were headed by Paul Fishman who did the song writing and stuff. They started out in soundtracks and did a few before becoming a real band in 1982.
They recorded 2 albums...and some soundtracks in the 80s...then Fishman went solo...recorded a few soundtracks, then reappeared with Peter Gill from FGTH to record a really neat album "About 8 Minutes". They launched a site..and it never went past the "Page Coming Soon" stage.
I am trying to find the members, but there seems to be a bit of anymosity between them. I've only managed to get hold of two of them.
Im not sure what else you wanted to know.
I have the unreleased album. I was the first to bring it to the masses and the hub...and now tons of people got it. I burned like 50 copies of that biatch and mailed them everywhere on the planet.
My CD was made from the original DAT..and has no crackles...which is sweet.
Side note: I bought PoD off Amazon for $8 before it became so freaking expensive.
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Posted:
Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:13 am
by DavePlym
re Politics of Dancing 12" diff mixes etc
"They are all the same....as far as I can tell.
The UK, US, Album versions all appear to be the same. I have hoardes of Re-Flex material...and nothing really appears to be different."
I bought a 12 mixes compilation locally (emi released it for a short while in UK) which had POD on it and although not radically different
from the CD version, it is nonetheless different - maybe they took it from the 'wrong' master tape ?
I'm no officianado of the band (i think i've got the set of 12" singles plus the POD cd - just hope this info may be of help.
Ps anyone else live in south west of England?

Posted:
Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:55 am
by spacecircus
Weren't Level 42 members Mark King and Phil Gould part of Reflex at the beginning? Anyone know what songs they performed on? I am sure it was pre-Politics of Dancing era.

Posted:
Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:23 pm
by hanshcv
[quote][i]Originally posted by Frayo[/i]
I am the RE-FLEX god of this board.
[/quote]
Well at least after I sent you a copy of
Humanication it seems like it.... [;)]
H [:)]

Posted:
Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:35 pm
by Frayo
[quote][i]Originally posted by hanshcv[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Frayo[/i]
I am the RE-FLEX god of this board.
[/quote]
Well at least after I sent you a copy of
Humanication it seems like it.... [;)]
H [:)]
[/quote]
*bows*
You have made me happier than any single person ever.
I mean WOW. I had all their stuff.....and then you help me out...and Im unable to say anything but WOW.
I am forever in your debt.
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Posted:
Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:17 pm
by SomebodySomewhere
I just listened to "Humanication" for the very first time thanks to that blog. What I want to know is, who's the idiot who picked "How Much Longer" to be [i]the[/i] single? It's the worst thing on it!
I just assumed the album was a huge clunker, since most unreleased LPs are and since "How Much Longer" certainly was, but I was pleasantly surprised. There's some really good stuff there. Especially "Forever and Ever."
I don't know exactly what brand of office politics did them in, but now I'm convinced they got completely screwed over by poor single choices. ("Pointless" was my favorite track off "The Politics of Dancing.")

Posted:
Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:42 pm
by Frayo
[quote][i]Originally posted by SomebodySomewhere[/i]
<br>I just listened to "Humanication" for the very first time thanks to that blog. What I want to know is, who's the idiot who picked "How Much Longer" to be [i]the[/i] single? It's the worst thing on it!
I just assumed the album was a huge clunker, since most unreleased LPs are and since "How Much Longer" certainly was, but I was pleasantly surprised. There's some really good stuff there. Especially "Forever and Ever."
I don't know exactly what brand of office politics did them in, but now I'm convinced they got completely screwed over by poor single choices. ("Pointless" was my favorite track off "The Politics of Dancing.")
[/quote]
My sentiments exactly. If those guys were actually promoted right, they would have been able to actually get somewhere and make more music instead of just having the material out that allowed them to be easily lumped into the generic synthesized pop from the mid to late 80s.
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