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I remember a few people here were looking for this gem so here you are.... and the quality, I got this almost unplayed lp, in great condition, and a friend of mine digitalized it. It's almost CD quality, 320 K with a little touch of vinyl!

Dekka Danse - Waltz in the Wilderness.zip
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0zqose


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Thnaks Dan! [:D]


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This is really interesting, I particularly enjoy "I Can't Believe It". Do you have any background info on the band?

Thanks so much Daniel, it's always good to re-discover bands like this. [:D]

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[quote][i]Originally posted by zill[/i]
<br>This is really interesting, I particularly enjoy "I Can't Believe It". Do you have any background info on the band?
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If anyone does please share it as they're one of my favourite bands.


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"As chairman of the Cradle of Filth fanclub I'm the most insensitive man in Britain, but even I can see there's tension there"

Thanks, Daniel. I've only got the singles from them. It's nice to hear that CBS selected them so incredibly well... NOT. The title track and "Great Divide" -- now those would've been great singles.

I think this was posted here before (not by me), but just in case it wasn't, this is the B-side to "Immagnetized."


[b]Dekka Danse - Drowning by the Hour[/b]
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 4E56C47C02

http://rapidshare.com/files/125280249/D ... r.mp3.html


Lead singer was John Innes, by the way. Wish I had a bio sheet that could tell the rest of the story.

Thanks for posting this somebodysomewhere. Does anyone have idea why Drowning By The Hour was left out of the LP? [:D] was that the manic norm to not include the best song?

For the same reason that CBS picked the weakest song that did make the album ("Soul Separation") to be one of the singles? If there was any hope of success, they sure killed it with that.

Rest of the band according to an eBay auction...

Alan Morrison - guitar
Jon Smith - keyboards
Eric Grant - bass
Dave Scott - drums

I'm sure the names are on the back of the 7" pic sleeves; just damned if I know what box I've got 'em stored in. "Immagnetized" and "Soul Separation" had 12" extended mixes, as well. Don't own them (well, pretty sure I don't), but they're not hard to find. Now, to go find me my own copy of the LP.

Dekka Danse - Immagnetized (extended mix)
http://rapidshare.com/files/125447834/1 ... d_mix_.mp3

A great band.

http://mineforlife.blogspot.com

Thanks for the names SS, it seems unlikely we'll ever find what they're up to now.


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"As chairman of the Cradle of Filth fanclub I'm the most insensitive man in Britain, but even I can see there's tension there"

I googled the keyboard player's name this turned out:

Jon Smith - keyboard entertainer
http://www.organfax.co.uk/players/jonsmith.html

I have sent him an e-mail to see if he it's him! I can tell he's around 47 so agewise he's the right guy! [:D]

Just phoned him and he's not.


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"As chairman of the Cradle of Filth fanclub I'm the most insensitive man in Britain, but even I can see there's tension there"

[quote][i]Originally posted by Frank_Chickens[/i]
<br>Thanks for the names SS, it seems unlikely we'll ever find what they're up to now.[/quote]


The only reason I remembered the lead singer's name is because it's my mother's maiden name, and I have a cousin on that side of the family also named John Innes (not that I really know him). That, and I usually remember lead singer's names -- just not anybody else's!

"Immagnetized" appears on a 1984 CBS UK sampler album. Not that I'm going to buy it, but maybe there'll be on a bio on that? Worth a shot. Or maybe one of them will see their names in Google, realize that they have fans, and stop in to tell us what they're up to.

I'm loaded right now so forgive me if this doesn't make any sense. It makes sense to me, but what do I know? I'm loaded.


Looked up the band names in ASCAP and BMI. Surprisingly they are in BMI. PRS (UK) affiliations of course -- except for an APRA (usually Australian) affiliation for an "Eric Stanley Jupp." There is no Alan Morrison listed. Either Alan didn't do any of the songwriting or they replaced guitarists. I don't have my singles handy right now so I can't check the songwriting credits printed on them although I'm sure one of you can.

Thanks to one of his non-Dekka Danse credits, I managed to find a page for Eric Jupp. Poor guy's dead. It confirms he moved from England to Australia. Based on his what his age would have been in 1984, I'm assuming he was Dekka Danse's producer. A 60-year-old guitarist? Yeah I don't think so. I'm sure you can find that on the vinyl as well.

http://www.milesago.com/Artists/jupp.htm

Jon's full name is given as Jonathan Barrack Smith

Additional songs written by Grant/Innes/Jupp/Scott/Smith that are not on the "Waltz" album or non-LP B-sides are...


ONLY LIVE FOR PLEASURE (BMI Work #1128747) (this is not co-written by Jupp but by a Malcolm Conwill, who also co-wrote a tune called "Human Touch" with John Innes - see below)
LET THE DESERT BLOOM (BMI Work #860871)
THIS COULD LAST FOREVER (BMI Work #1499345)
TIME ON OUR SIDE (BMI Work #1516970)


Confusingly, John Innes' credits are linked to a George J. Newsome. Same guy? Name change? Fake name? Unless it's a bug in the system, it sure seems like it. Innes'/Newsome's additional credits, without the other members of Dekka Danse are...


AND LONELY (BMI Work #40020)
CITY WAYS (BMI Work #217230)
GOING DOWN THIS ROAD (BMI Work #487992)
HEY BABY EVERYTHING S GONNA BE (BMI Work #561247)
HUMAN TOUCH (BMI Work #597360) (Conwill and Innes, as noted)
KEY FOR EVERY OCCASION (BMI Work #799847) (penned by himself)
LOOKING FOR MY BABY (BMI Work #902763)
MALICE IN WONDERLAND (BMI Work #949502) (penned by himself)
MUM S THE WORD (BMI Work #1023211)
TWENTY PAST ONE (BMI Work #1560176)
TWENTY PAST TWO (BMI Work #1560177)
WEE BABY BLUES (BMI Work #1623326)
YOU VE BEEN DRINKING (BMI Work #1735891) - HOLY SHIT it's my autobiography!!!


Except as noted, these were all co-written with Colin F.R. Cooper, Peter John Haycock, Derek John Holt, Frederick Joseph Jones and Arthur Wood - who have 4 different affiliations among them (ASCAP, BMI, GEMA and PRS).

Wait a second, THAT'S THE CLIMAX BLUES BAND!!

Newsome, their early drummer, left in the early '70s. I find it hard to believe he'd go from that to Dekka Danse (and under a different name). But who knows. Does anyone? Is this a bug? Or is the same dude?

Finally, Jon Smith clearly was a part of some other UK band at some point after Dekka Danse.


MC GEE PHILIP PRS 160630796
MOORE DALE ROBERT PRS 255828441
SMITH JONATHAN BARRACK PRS 121902708
SOLER PAUL JOSEPH PRS 255828637
SUMMERS SCOTT JOHN PRS 255828539


Songwriting credits (some with Summers, some without)...


ACCIDENTAL (BMI Work #2146991)
HEARD IT ALL BEFORE (BMI Work #2146994)
MAN WHO BLEW THE WORLD (BMI Work #2147001)
MENTAL (BMI Work #2061631)
PLUMMET SONG FOR A DEAD FRIEND (BMI Work #2061560) - What a GREAT title!
TEENAGE HERO (BMI Work #2147005)
YOUNGER EVERYDAY (BMI Work #2147009)


These songs were published by EMI Blackwood Music, but I can't make heads or tails of any of this. Who is this band? The BMI numbers probably can at least tell you the general year. I'll look into that.

So I checked the emimusicpub.com website, and confirmed these guys published these and a whole lot of other songs, none of which I can find any existence of otherwise. Despite the creative titles.



ACCIDENTAL
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER

AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 SECONDS
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, PAUL SOLER

BEAUTIFUL TONIGHT
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

BETTER THINGS
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER

BOY THAT FELL TO EARTH
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

CLOCKWORK DOGS
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

DIRTY CAROL
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

HEARD IT ALL BEFORE
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER

KEVLAR & CORDUROY
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

L.O.V.E/H.A.T.E
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

MAN WHO BLEW THE WORLD
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER

MANIPULATE ME
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

MENTAL
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

MR BIG BELIEVER
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

NEWS OF THE WORLD
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

NUCLEAR FAMILY ON HOLIDAY
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

PLASTIC WORLD
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

PLUMMET (SONG FOR A DEAD FRIEND)
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

SAID AND DONE
DONALD SCOTT, PHIL MCGEE, PAUL SOLER

SHAME
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

SILICON VALLEY
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

SOAPBOX JUNKIE
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

TEENAGE HERO
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER

TOO FAR
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER, SCOTT SUMMERS

YOUNGER EVERYDAY
PHIL MCGEE, DALE MOORE, JONATHAN SMITH, PAUL SOLER



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Okay, wait, so Phil McGee and Dale Moore were part of a Liverpool band called Scary Monsters. Who?

Wait, wait, hold up.... hold on. 1995 punk 7" record by a band called Clockwork Dogs - "Soapbox Junkie." So I guess that's the band. Clockwork Dogs. Well, who the fuck are they? Jonathan Barrack Smith, who the fuck is your other band?

I think we're halfway there. Google all the different names and I bet we can light this candle. From the looks of things, Dekka Danse was probably from somewhere in Northern England. Possibly Liverpool or Manchester.

somebodysomewhere wow, thank you so much. I am now googling using your info. I have also added the lp to rateyourmusic site, hoping others can add stuff or update the information.