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Postby newwavepopman » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:48 pm

I really don't think that Captain Sensible was a big fan of Adam Ant,seeing how he trashes Adam in his song Wot,calling Adam an ugly old bloke and pirate.
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Postby Dave » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:02 pm

I heard Joe Jackson had a problem with the Clash, the Jam, the Who, the Sex Pistols and the Rutles:

"Mods and rockers and Beatle freaks
Punks and skunks and kooks and geeks

And it’s such a crime
How they waste their time
They can’t get nowhere
They’ve all gone Beat Crazy
Beat Crazy"
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Postby design_femme » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:24 pm

[quote]I guess The Smiths and Echo & the Bunnymen were rivals in having their fans be in seperate camps (ie like the whole Oasis/Blur thing).[/quote]

Ian McCulloch used to slag off people all the time… Mac the Mouth's favorite victim? Bono.

Years later, Ian matured and actually passed along a message to Bono, saying he was sorry for all the smack talk. Supposedly Bono sent word back, "Don't worry about it."
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Postby ghosty » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:16 pm

The Killers started up with the Bravery. Brandon Flowers said the only reason The Bravery was signed was to capitalize on the success of The Killers (which he's right about, incidentally). Bravery frontman Sam Endicott took exception to that and mocked Brandon Flowers for his "mormon lifestyle".

The fact that Sam Endicott was once in a ska band should'nt be held against him. How many NW acts had long hair/hippie pasts they tried to suppress? Quite a few as I recall (anybody have that photo of John Lydon with his shoulder length Peter Frampton cut? Now that was a hoot!). After all, It's not like an artist drops out of heaven fully formed and ready to go.[8D]

I'd take The Killers over The Bravery any day but I'd take The Arcade Fire and Interpol over both of 'em.
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Postby Bitter Almonds » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:51 pm

They both capitalise on electroclash and hacks like Ladytron and Franz the same way Coldplay capitalises on Radiohead's and Travis's sound. Personally, I'll take real New Wave over The Killers any day. At first it was a nice little novelty, but I have to skip their songs whenever one resurfaces[B)]
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Postby Crimsor » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:54 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by rewind[/i]
<br>Captain Sensible ragged on Adam Ant:

"Well hello Adam, where you been?
I said a'stand aside 'cause I'm a'feelin' mean...
I've had a gutful of you and I'm feelin' bad
'Cause you're an ugly old pirate and ain't I glad."
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haha, he also knocks "him" down in the video.
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Postby Crimsor » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:59 pm

[quote]Originally posted by FreeWave
[br]Title says it all. Which bands were rivals at the time or openly talked trash about other bands?

New Order to this day is still miffed about selective pilfering of a few of their songs by The Cure.


[/quote]

I remember hearing, around the time Technique came out, Robert Smith was going to sue New Order because he claimed All the Way was a blatant ripoff of Just Like Heaven!

On a non new wave note, I also remember Belinda Carlisle was threatened with a lawsuit by Jon Bonjovi because he claimed [i]Heaven is a place on Earth[/i] was a ripoff of [i]Living on a Prayer[/i]. Haha, first of all, I dont hear it, second of all, did she even write that song?

Wasn't there a (possibly media fabricated?) war between EMF and Jesus Jones?
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Postby buffalochipz » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:26 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by bpdp3[/i]
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Recent rock mags I've read document the feud between two current 'next wave' acts, the Bravery and the Killers. Apparently one of the most derogatory remarks made was that band members used to play in a ska group. Is that now like the ultimate put-down??
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I think the fact that they're both signed to Island Records explains a lot. Nothing like a little fake rivalry to stir interest. Although......the pre-Bravery ska band was named Skabba The Hut which, IMO, gives the Killers every right to slag on them.
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Postby randy » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:07 am

So......if new wavers were rappers-which ones would be dead now????
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Postby ghosty » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:07 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by XXX[/i]
<br>They both capitalise on electroclash and hacks like Ladytron and Franz the same way Coldplay capitalises on Radiohead's and Travis's sound. Personally, I'll take real New Wave over The Killers any day. At first it was a nice little novelty, but I have to skip their songs whenever one resurfaces[B)]
[/quote]

Yeah, but pop is basically a teenage market and their audience is teenagers. It gives them a bit of drama to fantasize over (just like all us old farts are remembering the rivalries of NW acts from when WE were teenagers).
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Postby BHols » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:56 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Crimsor[/i]
<br>[quote]Originally posted by FreeWave
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On a non new wave note, I also remember Belinda Carlisle was threatened with a lawsuit by Jon Bonjovi because he claimed [i]Heaven is a place on Earth[/i] was a ripoff of [i]Living on a Prayer[/i]. Haha, first of all, I dont hear it, second of all, did she even write that song?
[/quote]

I think you meant You give Love A Bad Name which was already a blatant rip off of a Bonnie Tyler song called If You were A Woman & I Was A Man.

The crappy Livin' on a prayer song was a total rip off Bananarama's Venus.

Bon Jovi - the man is a colossal tool.[V][xx(][:(]

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Postby Quite Life » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:40 pm

How about The Police!

Nothing can be more toxic or verbaly vile then hearing Sting and Copeland trade brutal remarks in one of there infamous clashes of egos... Kick his a** Stewart! [;)]
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Postby Quite Life » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:43 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
<br>Yet no one gives shit to Rancid for completely changing their look and sound from when they wer e Operation Ivy.
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If thats the case then maybe The Offs should get some payback from Operation Ivy for steeling thier sound.

cheers,
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Postby yipyipcoyote » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:08 am

Didn't Diamanda Galas trash Nina Hagen in an interview or something? I hear Diamanda also suggested Nina take some singing lessons. Wonder how she reacted to that [:p]
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Postby Sean » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:40 am

I think I remember reading somewhere that Soft Cell and The Human League used to team up to talk bad about Depeche Mode. Depeche Mode used to team up with Blancmange I think. :)
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