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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:32 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Spectre General[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>You'll soon go the way of so many disgruntled crybaby assclowns before you and it won't be a moment too soon. Need help finding the door?
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You blatantly stated that you wanted someone to leave, and called many people who had left "crybaby assclowns." There's no ambiguity here.
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Yes, a good percentage of those who have left have been "crybaby assclowns". Anyone who has been here any length of time should have no trouble recognizing it as such.
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And it's weird, motors, that you would be prompted to saying this by something that was directed at eight6, and not yourself.
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What's weird about it? You're allowed to stick up for someone like hello_world but I'm not allowed to stick up for someone who has contributed far more to the board? Is that it or am I missing something here? Do you seriously think eight6 is a troll? How many pictures of new wave women (which we've all seen 100 times previously, btw) does one need to post before someone's allowed to have his back when someone takes an unfounded shot at him?


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It's not like hello_world outing either of you as a troll was news to anybody.
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I'm sure it's news to quite a few people actually but if that's your take, OK. I couldn't care less. I don't remember you and I ever having any issues (don't remember you much at all, to be honest) so it's a little surprising, but I'll be over it before I even hit the post button. [^]
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Apparently, hello_world is as good a troll as the rest of us (as you implied in the unquoted part of the same post) because he certainly knows how to push [i]your[/i] buttons.
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Like that takes a lot of skill [:D]. He's nobody.

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And in regards to this:
[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>It's a good thing most of us who have been here a long time are Facebook friends and/or meet up at the other site. Then of course there's the Gossipmonger's Gang/Secret Bully Club ... but that's far more exclusive.
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It seems like you may be insinuating that I belive that there's some network of trolls that jointly plan these things, but I don't. However for your edification and in case you or anyone else is keeping count of how many times this has happened, I could go ahead and say "I think there's some secret club of trolls that jointly conspire against us!" And I could also say "I think maybe eight6 and motors are actually the same person" cause I'm sure at least one of you is keeping track of how often something like that gets said as well.
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No, I wasn't insinuating any of that. I think you're just grasping at shit now.
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By the way I remember when there was a secret club, we should get that back because accurately communicating via forum posts seems pretty ineffective.
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[quote][i]Originally posted by ghosty[/i]
<br>The bitching on this board is an excuse for middle aged people like us to relive high school. The majority of us will be dead in about 25 years anyway so enjoy it.
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Ghosty is the most correct IMO, but at least I'm much younger than most of you and will therefore probably live longer, so: [}:)]
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Sorry, but I kind of doubt that you'll live longer than I do. I'm in amazing health, have great genetics, have zero stress in my life, eat well, and exercise like a freakin' monster. I still feel 21 and that ain't gonna change. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'll be "trolling" here long after you're gone ... not that I want you to be gone (felt I had to include that in case you get all paranoid and weird on me again).


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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:37 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by zill[/i]
<br>Once I see those Titsou pictures I can't be bothered reading any of the other drivel.

Maybe eight 6 and motors created hello world because NWO was running low on targets after New Wave Kid left?
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Best theory yet ... but no.
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Postby zill » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:12 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by zill[/i]
<br>Once I see those Titsou pictures I can't be bothered reading any of the other drivel.

Maybe eight 6 and motors created hello world because NWO was running low on targets after New Wave Kid left?
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Best theory yet ... but no.
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I tried to create an alter ego called i_like_lectric_dildos but the mods wouldn't approve it. Bummer.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:19 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by zill[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by zill[/i]
<br>Once I see those Titsou pictures I can't be bothered reading any of the other drivel.

Maybe eight 6 and motors created hello world because NWO was running low on targets after New Wave Kid left?
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Best theory yet ... but no.
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I tried to create an alter ego called i_like_lectric_dildos but the mods wouldn't approve it. Bummer.
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It must have been because your humor matches Andy's so closely, they thought it was him.
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Postby eight6 » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:04 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]

Sorry, but I kind of doubt that you'll live longer than I do. I'm in amazing health, have great genetics, have zero stress in my life, eat well, and exercise like a freakin' monster. I still feel 21 and that ain't gonna change. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'll be "trolling" here long after you're gone ... not that I want you to be gone (felt I had to include that in case you get all paranoid and weird on me again).

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Postby eight6 » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:07 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by zill[/i]
<br>Once I see those Titsou pictures I can't be bothered reading any of the other drivel.

Maybe eight 6 and motors created hello world because NWO was running low on targets after New Wave Kid left?
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Best theory yet ... but no.
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Neither of us could be that one dimensional.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:12 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by eight6[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]

Sorry, but I kind of doubt that you'll live longer than I do. I'm in amazing health, have great genetics, have zero stress in my life, eat well, and exercise like a freakin' monster. I still feel 21 and that ain't gonna change. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'll be "trolling" here long after you're gone ... not that I want you to be gone (felt I had to include that in case you get all paranoid and weird on me again).

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The only thing that's takin' motors down is a fatty in a health food store!!

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LOL! Or a crybaby assclown with a bigger weapon and/or better aim. Again ... ain't gonna happen.
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Postby zill » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:53 am

I do find it odd when new members show up on the board and within a few posts they engage in pitched battles with the veterans. In a "live" social situation when you join a new group, I don't think one typically engages in confrontation straight out of the gate. Maybe you hang out, play it cool, let some of the things that annoy you blow off in the beginning and build some friendships or alliances first before you call someone out.

The eagerness of some new members to do battle leads me to believe that they either have zero social skills in real life or are probably the same old trolls under new names.
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Postby Spectre General » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:34 pm

Well I suppose I have two separate points to make in this post.

The first being that it is absolutely pointless to try to justify a flame war. If you're involved in it, you know you're involved in it, and you know why, and this goes for all parties involved. When people start slinging around excuses, or justifications, at that point it literally becomes absurd, because in the same vein as what ghosty said, this is the internet and none of this shit matters.

However, motors, you did say something in your response which I thought I might see in some form or another that I'd like to address, and that was this:

[quote]<Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>You're allowed to stick up for someone like hello_world but I'm not allowed to stick up for someone who has contributed far more to the board? Is that it or am I missing something here?
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Perhaps you are missing something. This is something I do happen to take issue with, and honestly, there aren't many things, or I wouldn't still be coming here. This is a music forum, it's not community service, you do not get rewards or allowances for contributing to the site, I don't care if you answer every question in Obscure 80's Central, I don't care if you've posted 9,000 songs over the past 9 years. It shouldn't matter. The concept behind a message board is that anybody can create an account and make topics or respond to them. There currently are no rules regulating who is allowed to make posts based on "how much they've contributed." The reason this is a pet peeve of mine has nothing to do with hello_world, he's not my special buddy, if he flies off the handle cause he can't take a tiny amount of trolling (which is what happened) that's his problem. The reason it's a pet peeve of mine is because I've run into this mindset countless times on the internet all over the place, not just here. There's this crazy mindset that for some reason people have where they think that the more they do for other people, the more entitled they are to get whatever they want, say whatever they want, and act however they want, and they generally take on this persona as if they were "allowed" to boss around others, because they've "contributed more" or "earned that right." And that mindset is simply false. Don't you know that life isn't fair?

"Who has contributed more" is 100% irrelevant. In fact the only place it matters is in the minds of the various other posters on the site. That's why I made the "tree-fort" analogy, it's almost as if there's some set of unspoken rules of membership that were magically agreed upon by a large amount of the population that there was a threshold that had to be reached, or an initiation that had to be passed before someone was "entitled" to say what they want, at least, without fear of some reprecussion. This has always boggled my mind because it's pretty much omni-present on the internet, not just here. It is, much like ghosty said, very cliquish, like high school. When even minor spats like the one in this thread crop up, it turns into a stupid self-preservation decision, and everyone makes this insane judgement based upon who they think it will best behoove them to "side with." Ultimately somebody (or some group) comes up with false logic akin to "so-and-so is wrong because [i]we[/i] have the majority opinion" then they turn into trolls who say and/or do whatever they want cause they know the majority will "side with them" and there will be no reprecussion. We jest about the "Gossipmonger's Gang/Secret Bully Club" but the fact is it really [i]does[/i] exist. Not physically, but in the minds of everyone who reads these interactions, when they have to decide who to "side with" it [i]becomes[/i] a real thing. It's all group mentality bullshit. Something that should have been phased out of humanity eons ago, at least if we're all as enlightened/evolved as we like to pretend we are. I mean the fact that zill used the word "alliances" in the post above is completely absurd. Why do I have to be "allied" with you to talk to you? I only "stuck up" for hello_world because I hate that attitute, that mindset in general, not cause I like him and hate you, I don't particularly like him, and I don't particularly hate you. I just hate the dynamic that you unintentionally introduced by suggesting that there were two groups of people here, and that eight6 was in one of them and hello_world was in another and that somehow, the group that eight6 belonged to was justified, and hello_world's wasn't. In reality, they're both trolls, and fairly dumb for getting into a flame war over nothing. So are you, so am I. But you know that group mentality dynamic gets introduced into threads here almost constantly, it's just usually not as blatant, and usually doesn't afford an opportunity for discussion such as it did in this case.

Ideally, there is only one group, the group of people who post on this website. Though, I suppose there may be a second group, a group consisting of lurkers who never post, and only come here to download every single thing anyone ever posts, in reality that group is probably much bigger, and I'd almost hate to see how you feel about them. You also have to remember that people are here for different reasons. I come here for the entertainment and the conversation, if you can belive that, and fact is this place has gotten really damn boring recently, and I find that suggesting that someone leave, ostensibly because you don't like them, or because they don't belong to your group, or because they haven't contributed enough, is just not productive, so that was what prompted my last response. I don't have any beef with you, or anyone else really and I'm not losing any sleep over it. There's really just nothing else interesting to talk about right now, and the whole social dynamic of internet forums is just always bizarre to me especially when it's a bunch of intelligent adults acting like children.

FYI the only person I ever openly raged on here (that I remember) was Georgie, because he was completely intolerable and even then it was his arrogance that got to me. There's some members now who are pretty intolerable, but I just ignore them, or troll them if/when I feel like it, how they respond to it is up to them. There's usually nothing wrong with trolling, and that brings me to my second point:

People are actually trolls for a variety of reasons, contrary to what hello_world stated (although it's probably right in a minority of cases.) Half the time people do it in a lighthearted way, in the way you might be a sarcastic jackass to your friends. Sometimes I find it hilarious the back and forth that some of you guys have with one another, it's mean-spirited but you realize that nobody really means it, and it's easier to interpret the longer you've been here. If you get offended that's your problem. Nobody here has managed to offend me, so I don't care if people troll. And even if someone does get offended, really that's their choice too, nobody should have to apologize, and if you make a post, well then you're fair game I think that's pretty obvious now. The other reason people troll however, is because they genuinely do mean what they say, and know that they can get away with it because this is the internet. I don't like this kind of trolling, because it's unrealistic. It wouldn't happen in real life and if confronted about it, the troll usually says "dude, lol I can't belive you're getting all emotional about some stuff on the internet" but that's a form of backpedaling IMO so they can keep up the ridiculous social facade, people that do this, probably do need help. I want to make it clear that I'm not accusing anybody of doing that type of trolling, but it has happened and generally we all know it when we see it, well, most of us do.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to the NNNW section to offer Sheik motors one of my daughters, three of my camels, some rare 80's music and permission to draw water from my well on Thursdays after midday in the hopes that we can form an alliance and that he'll give me the password to get behind the green door at the Secret Bully Club.

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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:11 pm

Damn dude, take a breath. It's gonna be OK.

Does anyone else all of a sudden miss beatschool?
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Postby zill » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:20 pm

There's got to be a reality tv show idea buried in all this drama.

I hope I have time to make popcorn before hw replies.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:37 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Spectre General[/i]

We jest about the "Gossipmonger's Gang/Secret Bully Club" but the fact is it really [i]does[/i] exist. Not physically,

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Yes, physically. It's a very small group and we meet very rarely and only in extreme circumstances but it's very real. We even have member numbers and a secret language.
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Postby Spectre General » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:59 pm

That's gotta be pretty hard to facilitate from all the way over there in Vatican City.

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Postby djcraig » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:09 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Spectre General[/i]

We jest about the "Gossipmonger's Gang/Secret Bully Club" but the fact is it really [i]does[/i] exist. Not physically,

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Yes, physically. It's a very small group and we meet very rarely and only in extreme circumstances but it's very real. We even have member numbers and a secret language.
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You're NOT supposed to openly admit that. Remember our creed, "Klax Latu Onus".

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Postby toyah » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:42 am

there's my little sonny boy..
peeled the white hood off your head after the rally finally, did you?
..I guess you belong in the group, as it's described as the 'physically..very small' group..like,all four and a half inches when staring at a Debbie Harry poster..
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