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Postby Panorama » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:52 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by danadotcom[/i]
<br>OK, that's great how you feel about John Cougar, but that doesn't answer my question. Neither do the lyrics to "Paper In Fire". So while I appreciate the time you both took to waste your time, my inquiry still goes unanswered.
[/quote]If you read my post, my quoting "Paper in Fire" was a direct response to:
[quote][i]Originally posted by Peter Venkman[/i]
"buy the sheet music, burn it all in front of his face, and laugh."[/quote]
I actually like the song "Paper in Fire" also "Check It Out"

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Postby Grunch » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:21 am

I especially like his first two releases, including Nothing Matters And What If It Did. Lots of excellent tracks on those first two IMO.
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Postby Peter Venkman » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:28 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>To whom it may concern:

Having grown up in the Mellencamp circle, I feel that y'all need to shut the hell up. I've never been a fan of John's music, but unlike most musicians that we like, he spends a lot of it in his hometown community.[/quote]

Good. The more time he spends there, the less time he spends spreading his music with Donovan and his ilk.

[quote]He financially helps to keep the only mom & pop record store in Seymour IN. in business (where they sell every kind of music, even new wave). He donates funds towards the downtown business district, in protest to Wal-Mart's locust like assault. [/quote]

[i] "O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables,--meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain."[/i]
--William Shakespeare

[quote]He treats his family amazingly well, and he has no ego whatso-FN-ever.[/quote]

No ego, huh? The next time you speak to John, could you act as my proxy, and ask him what went through his head when he wrote "The Authority Song"? Did he say to himself, "gee, I really like 'I Fought The Law', and I know I could get back on the charts if I <del>ripped it off</del> remade it. But there's a thorny legal issue--hey wait, Bobby Fuller's dead, isn't he? Never mind! Joe Bob, Cletus--into the studio! I smell platinum!"

[quote]To rip into him, to wish his death (even in a joking manner) is bad form.[/quote]

I never wished his death; I only wished that he was never born. But since that disturbs you so, I (reluctantly) rescind that part.<sup>1</sup>

[quote] What the hell did he do to any of you? Make some music you don't care for?[/quote]

No, he made a [b]lot[/b] of music I don't care for.

<sup>1</sup><font size="1">The part about turning his town into a toxic waste dump and burning his back catalogue in his face still stands.</font>
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Postby Peter Venkman » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:36 pm

BTW, anybody remember when MTV in the '80s did one of their crummy contests where the winner would actually win a "little pink house"?

Worst. Contest. Ever.
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Postby noodles » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:51 pm

you won the house, a house party and then you were gonna "paint the mutha pank"

put me in the he's OK category.
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Postby EverydayItsTomorrow » Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:38 am

I think the line
'Suckin' on a chili dog'
is disgusting
But, i do like the rhythm track on Jack and Diane
kind of electro rock
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Postby danadotcom » Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:11 pm

Well, the last word I have to add to this is that anyone who puts Edith Massey on an album cover AND in a video is OK with me. And yes, I tried AMG and several other avenues of info to find an answer to my original inquiry and STILL don't have one!
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Postby plagiarism » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:51 pm

All Music says "Peppermint Twist" is 29 seconds.

There's a sample of the song at
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/mus ... It+Did.htm
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Postby ben_at_work » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:09 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Peter Venkman[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by hutter[/i]
<br>To whom it may concern:

Having grown up in the Mellencamp circle, I feel that y'all need to shut the hell up. I've never been a fan of John's music, but unlike most musicians that we like, he spends a lot of it in his hometown community.[/quote]

Good. The more time he spends there, the less time he spends spreading his music with Donovan and his ilk.

[quote]He financially helps to keep the only mom & pop record store in Seymour IN. in business (where they sell every kind of music, even new wave). He donates funds towards the downtown business district, in protest to Wal-Mart's locust like assault. [/quote]

[i] "O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables,--meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain."[/i]
--William Shakespeare

[quote]He treats his family amazingly well, and he has no ego whatso-FN-ever.[/quote]

No ego, huh? The next time you speak to John, could you act as my proxy, and ask him what went through his head when he wrote "The Authority Song"? Did he say to himself, "gee, I really like 'I Fought The Law', and I know I could get back on the charts if I <del>ripped it off</del> remade it. But there's a thorny legal issue--hey wait, Bobby Fuller's dead, isn't he? Never mind! Joe Bob, Cletus--into the studio! I smell platinum!"

[quote]To rip into him, to wish his death (even in a joking manner) is bad form.[/quote]

I never wished his death; I only wished that he was never born. But since that disturbs you so, I (reluctantly) rescind that part.<sup>1</sup>

[quote] What the hell did he do to any of you? Make some music you don't care for?[/quote]

No, he made a [b]lot[/b] of music I don't care for.

<sup>1</sup><font size="1">The part about turning his town into a toxic waste dump and burning his back catalogue in his face still stands.</font>



[/quote]

HAHAHAHA! Nothing like pure hatred [:D]
I think Hutter who obviously likes him, instead of being as defensive, could have summed it up with "Dont' Hate, Appreciate!". I know i said i'm not fond of him, i should have said I'm not fond of his music. I had no idea he did all that charity work and takes care of his family so. Thaks for the info Hutter.
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Postby hutter » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:06 am

Yeah, I did come off a bit harsh. But then, I thought of a performer that I hate with the same passion that Peter hates my cousin: Elton John. I'm offended by his very existence. He makes nothing but drek, IMHO, and is a terrible example of what a successful gay man is. He makes even gay people wince. I'd love to have the opportunity to lay a shovel upside his face. Am I being too mean? Well, yeah. But I'm venting. So was Peter. Sometimes it makes you feel better to say over the top shit about folks that, for whatever reason, annoy the hell out of you.

I just know someone is going to jump on me for slamming Dame Elton. But so what. Hell, I did the same to Peter. So I took offense to his opinion about J.M. So what? Anyone here is free game, right?

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Postby ben_at_work » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:37 am

Wow, i missed the part that he's your cousin! Thats pretty cool! I like old Elton. Dislike the new one, HAHAHAHAHA! Dame Elton HAHAHAHAH!!!!!
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Postby Rat_Scabies » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:58 pm

I was into his wannabe Bob Sieger music before I developed any taste.
I especially detest his advice during election years.

Shut up and sing.
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Postby hutter » Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:11 pm

I agree. John's a good guy, but he should keep it to himself about his political leanings. It's damn embarrasing. He used to be pretty conservative. Fame (or some bad weed) poisoned his common sense, as far as politics go.

...but a wannabe Bob Segar? Damn, that's pretty low. I can't think of anything worse than Bob Segar. He needs to get a shovel upside his head, just like Dame Elton.

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Postby WolverineSyr » Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:34 pm

You'll get no argument from me on Elton John. He's turned into Liberace. At least Liberace seemed like a nice guy...Elton just comes off like a fat pissy old lady.
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Postby hutter » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:56 am

Hey, anyone who was a villian on the old Batman TV show can't be all bad. Dame Elton wishes he was Liberace.

I can't believe the direction this thread has taken. Unreal.

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