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2011 NWO Top Songs Poll

New Wave/Punk music, culture, genres, memories. '80s revivalism and other relevant topics.

Postby Frank_Chickens » Mon May 09, 2011 10:59 pm

NOTES 2: And here are the ones that had to be left out, damn shame really. [V]

Playing by Numbers - Can't Get You Out of my Mind
Leisure Process - A Way You'll Never Be
The Look - Animal Charms
Dum Dum Dum - Dum Dum Dum
Sema 4 - Up Down Around
The News - 50% Reduction
Hitlist - Into The Fire
The Loved One - Sunday Morning Fever
English Evenings - Tear It Down
Weekend - View From Her Room
Primary Colors - Sometimes Memory Return
They Must Be Russians - Chains
Candy - Whatever Happened To Fun
Glass Museum - Dumping Cart Motion
Moloko+ - Falling Apart
Metronomes - A Circuit Like Me
The Tapes - Life In The City
Those Intrinsic Intellectuals - Radio Iceland
Lila - Good Luck
Systematics - Pulp Baby
Use No Hooks - Do The Job
Asphixiation - The Crush
Marek Bilinski - Endless Flight
Vocoder - Radio
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Mon May 09, 2011 11:19 pm

Umlauts. Fuckinell.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Mon May 09, 2011 11:56 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Frank_Chickens[/i]
<br>NOTES: Which bloody fool suggested a top 50? Anyway, here's my list of songs, it was so difficult to reduce it down to fifty but did my best. Was helped that is was new wave only as that means leaving out a lot of good jazz-funk and the like.

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I think you have the weirdest (by no means worst) taste in music I have ever seen.
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Postby schwenko » Tue May 10, 2011 12:34 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Frank_Chickens[/i]
<br>NOTES: Which bloody fool suggested a top 50? Anyway, here's my list of songs, it was so difficult to reduce it down to fifty but did my best. Was helped that is was new wave only as that means leaving out a lot of good jazz-funk and the like.

The Pinkees number one forever!

Pinkees - Danger Games
Dekka Danse - Drowning by the Hour
Music for Pleasure - Grey Parade
Frank Chickens - We Are Ninja (not geisha)
Haircut 100 - Two Up Too Down
Seiko Matsuda - Dancing Shoes
Fra Lippo Lippi- Out To Sea
Hey! Elastica! - This Town
White Door - Windows
Unknown Gender - Tension I
The Time Dance - Picture
The Freeze - Paranoia
Clark Datchler - You Fooled Him Once Again
Fiat Lux - Secrets
Cava Cava - Brother Bright
Academy - Tonight (The World Keeps Swinging)
3D - The CLub
Alberto y Los Trios Paranoias - Thank You
Power - Work Hard
Space Monkey - Can't Stop Running
Alternative Radio - Valley of Evergreen
Yachts - Suffice to Say
Endgames - Waiting For Another Chance
After This - Fields
Cook Da Booka - Your Eyes
Kau Tau - Toys in the Attic
Buckner & Garcia - Pac-Man Fever
Heebeegeebees - When Two Songs Sound the Same
Pop Group - We Are All Prostitutes
Defuser - World Suicide
SSQ - Anonymous
Diagram Brothers - Discordo
National Pastime - It's All A Game
Nova - Terranova
Suspender - Wechmart Style
The Wibbley Brothers - Alsation Firth Has Gone Away
Industry - Are You Ready For The Wave
Malaria! - Your Turn To Run
The Popular Sex - My Heart Beats Empty
Toeeon - The End
Fantastic Something - If She Smiles (It'll Rain)
Liquid Engineers - Help Me
The Orphans - Hop Skip Jump
Deckchairs Overboard - That's The Way
The Sons of Monkeys - Me and Mr Suzuki
Fox in Socks - Soundpatterns
Down To Earth - Interference
A.T. Rhythm - Silence
Pluta Connexion - Modern Love
Scattered Order - Swiss Like Knives and Forks
Abw�rts - Computerstaat
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Are You Ready For The Wave[:D]
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue May 10, 2011 2:11 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Frank_Chickens[/i]
<br>NOTES: Which bloody fool suggested a top 50? Anyway, here's my list of songs, it was so difficult to reduce it down to fifty but did my best. Was helped that is was new wave only as that means leaving out a lot of good jazz-funk and the like.
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I think you have the weirdest (by no means worst) taste in music I have ever seen.
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I'm sure it's a compliment that Alternative Radio, The Pop Group, and Deckchairs Overboard make up the mainstream portion of FC's list. [8D]
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Postby zill » Tue May 10, 2011 2:32 am

My approach this time around was to take the top 25 played off my iPod and round out the other 25 with songs that seemed like they ought to be there. I'm usually running when listening to my iPod, so it is kind of punk and power pop heavy.

The The – This Is The Day
The Plimsouls – How Long Will It Take
X - Los Angeles
Subhumans – Fuck You
Gang of Four – To Hell With Poverty
Fishbone – Party At Ground Zero
The Ramones – Blitzkrieg Bop
The Modernettes – Barbra
The Damned – Neat Neat Neat
Sex Pistols – Anarchy In The UK
Joy Division - Digital
Wire – 12XU
Shades – New Clientelle
The Cure – Boys Don’t Cry
Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
Sad Lovers & Giants - Colourless Dream
Killing Joke – Follow The Leaders
Belfegore – All That I Wanted
Blue Peter – Same Old Place
K-Tels – Automan
The Clash – Should I Stay Or Should I Go
The Undertones - You've Got My Number (Why Don't You Use It?)
The Vapors - Turning Japanese
B-Movie – Polar Opposites
XTC – Statue Of Liberty
Big Country – Fields Of Fire
Duran Duran – Girls On Film
Simple Minds – Speed Your Love To Me
The Romantics – What I Like About You
The Pretenders – Middle Of The Road
The Beat – Walking Out On Love
Martha and the Muffins - Echo Beach
The Flys - Can I Crash Here
James Freud – Modern Girl
Spoons - Nova Heart
Split Enz - I Got You
The Jam - That's Entertainment
The Church – The Unguarded Moment
Translator - Everywhere That I’m Not
The The – The Beaten Generation
English Beat - Save It For Later
A Flock of Seagulls - Wishing (If I Had A Photograph Of You)
Tears for Fears – Mad World
Depeche Mode - Just Can’t Get Enough
Boys Brigade - Passion Of Love
China Crisis - Working With Fire and Steel
Blancmange – Lose Your Love
APB – Higher The Climb
Sideways Look – Knowing You From Today
Modern Eon – Child’s Play
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Postby djcraig » Tue May 10, 2011 5:04 am

IMO some have forgone what they truly think the top 50 New Wave songs should be and instead are using this to promote their obscure, offbeat, "never got the recognition it deserved", pet songs. To each his own I guess.

While I am tempted to burn the torch for my own Concrete Blonde, Waterboys and Three O'Clock ditties, truth is these were marginal artists who, while I loved them, had little impact on the overall New Wave scene. In making a list for posterity, I'd have to leave these out of the Top 50, no matter how cool I think including them might make me look.

If the list is missing such New Wave stalwarts/ground breakers like The Cars, U2, The Clash, Pretenders, R.E.M., B-52s, etc. can it truly be reflective of the ultimate Top 50? I say nay.

I'm sure this won't change minds and may rile up a few. To that I say, C'est La Vie.

Oh shit... now here come the inevitable Robbie Nevil inclusion.



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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue May 10, 2011 5:22 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by djcraig[/i]
<br>IMO some have forgone what they truly think the top 50 New Wave songs should be and instead are using this to promote their obscure, offbeat, "never got the recognition it deserved", pet songs. To each his own I guess.

While I am tempted to burn the torch for my own Concrete Blonde, Waterboys and Three O'Clock ditties, truth is these were marginal artists who, while I loved them, had little impact on the overall New Wave scene. In making a list for posterity, I'd have to leave these out of the Top 50, no matter how cool I think including them might make me look.

If the list is missing such New Wave stalwarts/ground breakers like The Cars, U2, The Clash, Pretenders, R.E.M., B-52s, etc. can it truly be reflective of the ultimate Top 50? I say nay.

I'm sure this won't change minds and may rile up a few. To that I say, C'est La Vie.

Oh shit... now here come the inevitable Robbie Nevil inclusion.
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+1 but whatever. It'll all wash out. In the past, we've left it open to interpretation about whether it's a personal faves list or a semi-objective best of list. In the end, I think most end of being a mix of both. People can interpret it any way they want.
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Postby zill » Tue May 10, 2011 6:10 am

Hang on a minute. The instructions ask "1. That people post their Top 50 favorite songs to this thread, In Order." THEIR favorite songs. It doesn't say anything about songs that you think had an "impact on the overall New Wave scene".

My list is based on songs I actually listen to...a lot. Undoubtedly it relfects the fact that I've currently overdosed on Fade to Grey and The Look Of Love. It is a list of the moment, and also reflects my new found deep appreciation for the Vancouver scene that most on this board don't know much about. I'm not expecting any of those songs to be on your list.

Further, what defined New Wave for each of us is very different depending how old you are and where you lived. If you're under 40, your musical awareness probably coincided with the rise of Pet Shop Boys, Erasure and Violator-era Depeche Mode, and your list will look much different than the geezers on the board. Where I lived, bands like Echo & The Bunnymen got little if no airplay, so as much as I appreciate them, they don't really define anything for me.

Frank has said before that he wasn't part of "the scene" when it was happening. He is not influenced by what the cool kids or the teen-zines were telling us back in the day. He just likes what he likes. I admit I find it hard to predict what he will or will not like, but it doesn't matter, it is his list.

I think Frau is correct in his assertion that it will all wash out in the end. If you want the songs that defined the era, go pick up a various artists compilation. What makes this exercise interesting is the wide range of individual preferences and tastes of the people on the board.

"If the list is missing such New Wave stalwarts/ground breakers like The Cars, U2, The Clash, Pretenders, R.E.M., B-52s, etc. can it truly be reflective of the ultimate Top 50?" Personally, I think U2 had maybe one good album. I typically lump R.E.M. and the Smiths into some other category of music in my head, not new wave, but that's just me. And currently I would put The Cars and B-52's into my aforementioned overdose category. You can't tell people what to like or not to like. That's why Kajagoogoo will be right up there next to Pluta Connexion.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Tue May 10, 2011 6:12 am

I really want to do this but I'm having trouble with it because I have the same concerns as Craig and because I can't stop beating myself up over what is and isn't new wave. I see others listing The Clash but I'm not sure I should and if I do, where do I draw the line? Do I list Black Flag or Fear or The Germs or what? Fucking headache is what it is.
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Postby Spectre General » Tue May 10, 2011 7:26 am

I actually agree with zill, despite the fact that he's a Canucks fan.

It is supposed to be a list of "your favorite songs" not "the most important songs of the era." I have a few weird ones in my list that I thought "this will never get on the master list because nobody else will list it" but I like them, so I listed them.

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue May 10, 2011 7:48 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>I really want to do this but I'm having trouble with it because I have the same concerns as Craig and because I can't stop beating myself up over what is and isn't new wave. I see others listing The Clash but I'm not sure I should and if I do, where do I draw the line? Do I list Black Flag or Fear or The Germs or what? Fucking headache is what it is.
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I'd say put em all in there. I know when I say new wave, I mean that whole period from 76 to the late 80s of punk, post-punk, new wave, ska revival, even early nascent indie pop, etc. The fact that they're even under consideration means they should be part of the conversation. Then if you scan you list, wondering where it'll drop in, and you feel it ought to drop in "there", then freakin drop in the there IMHO.
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Tue May 10, 2011 7:50 am

But ooh look, we're talking about new wave. Woohoooo! [:D]
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Tue May 10, 2011 8:02 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Frau_Blucher[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by i_like_lectric_motors[/i]
<br>I really want to do this but I'm having trouble with it because I have the same concerns as Craig and because I can't stop beating myself up over what is and isn't new wave. I see others listing The Clash but I'm not sure I should and if I do, where do I draw the line? Do I list Black Flag or Fear or The Germs or what? Fucking headache is what it is.
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I'd say put em all in there. I know when I say new wave, I mean that whole period from 76 to the late 80s of punk, post-punk, new wave, ska revival, even early nascent indie pop, etc. The fact that they're even under consideration means they should be part of the conversation. Then if you scan you list, wondering where it'll drop in, and you feel it ought to drop in "there", then freakin drop in the there IMHO.
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I tried doing it and when I start throwing in punk I also end up throwing in mid-80s hardcore and whatever the Hell you want to call what was going on in the midwest (stuff like Big Black, Scratch Acid, etc ...) and then I start thinking Hell, if I can add that, then I can add industrial and Wax Trax shit and goth and then it's just this huge slippery slope. So then I tried to keep it VERY strictly new wave but the problem with that is that I didn't really listen to all that much new wave other than what was on at parties and clubs and my list comes out looking pretty bland and commercial. Oh well, I'll make it work somehow. I'll probably have the only list with both Culture Club and Throbbing Gristle on it. [B)]
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Postby wherewereuin82 » Tue May 10, 2011 8:08 am

Now I'm totally messed up. Big surprise [:D].
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