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All of these artists have at one time been name-dropped as important influences in formative punk & new wave. Who is most worthy of your praise?

I voted for Bowie. He's good.


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Iggy all the way.

Another vote for Bowie. Many, many, many artists in the late 70s and 80s were influenced by him. Although I'm not really sure he's "punk"...but his style, his flair, and his music was a major influence in the genre.

I have to disagree. Punk at the time was a backlash to the Bowie style of glam rock.
Simple, brutal, but effective.
Don't get me wrong, I love Bowie, but to call him a progenitor of punk is almost an insult.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Rokkr[/i]
<br>I have to disagree. Punk at the time was a backlash to the Bowie style of glam rock.
Simple, brutal, but effective.
Don't get me wrong, I love Bowie, but to call him a progenitor of punk is almost an insult.
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I completely agree with Rokkr
It seems everyone is voting for Bowie because they like him.
He is a definite influence on New Wave (especially New Romantic) but not
Punk

You can take SuNomi (or anyone for that matter) literally or instead read into his (or anyone for that matter) intended meaning. By "proto-punk", I immediately assumed that he meant everything kind of "alternative" before punk, especially in the context of his "influences in formative punk & new wave" follow-up comment.

If you take it to mean that, then Bowie stands head and shoulders above everyone else IMHO. We can all pretend to harken back to Iggy, MC5 and the Velvet Underground, but I bet you there's precious few of us who had a real-time clue of who the hell they were...er, excepting Rokkr of course, the musical freak! [;)]

Where's Kraftwerk? Sure, they didn't have any influence on punk, but New Wave music as we know (in particular synthpop, and indirectly nearly every other color of new wave music) was a result of Kraftwerks innovations and success.

oh well...of the names listed above, I gotta go with Bowie too. Outside of his musical influence, he was a great ambassador for music and musicians of several styles throughout the 70's.

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[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>You can take SuNomi (or anyone for that matter) literally or instead read into his (or anyone for that matter) intended meaning. By "proto-punk", I immediately assumed that he meant everything kind of "alternative" before punk, especially in the context of his "influences in formative punk & new wave" follow-up comment.

If you take it to mean that, then Bowie stands head and shoulders above everyone else IMHO. We can all pretend to harken back to Iggy, MC5 and the Velvet Underground, but I bet you there's precious few of us who had a real-time clue of who the hell they were...er, excepting Rokkr of course, the musical freak! [;)]
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I see what you are saying and it does make since to a degree. I do think it is a misaprehension that New Wave grew out of punk. New wave had it's own set of influences that were more about combining than tearing down.

Giorgio Moroder
Kraftwerk
Roxy Music
David Bowie
Prog-rock (which punks hated!)
Brian Eno
Can
Even Abba!

These don't really work for both Punk and New wave. They are specifically New Wave

There should be a poll for both

I know it's a little nit-picky, but I would've gone with Captain Beefheart had you listed him - -- at least for new-wave influence.

For punk influence, I'd go with the Stooges or the Dolls.

Iggy Pop ain,t called the godfather of punk fer nuthin.

Early electronic/avant garde scene was also a major influence for-mainly-the new wave ethos.Bands like Silver Apples(who played with a music box),Lothar and the Hand people(the only example of electronic-country rock!!)and also Deep with their psychedelic chaotic effects,from America.In England, there were autonomous experimentalists like Wendy Carlos,the duo of White Noise and -why not-the soundscapes of the legendary Dr Who.Don't forget the very influential scene of pub rock with bands like Ducks Deluxe,Fox,Dr Feelgood etc.

I went with Roxy as a sentimental choice-but here's one you didn't think of-every artist on the original Nuggets comp.