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Why did new wave fade away, but rap is still here?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:01 am
by WoodlandParkPunk
I just don't get it. Rap is everywhere today. On tv, in movies, on commercials, clothing, etc....
I know I am a 38 year old white guy, but I teach high school, went to Music college in the 80's and play in a weekend rock band, so I am not alienated from the youth of today.
What is it about rap. Why is rap so popular with all races? New wave was fun, bright, happy and rap is about "bitches" "ho's" pimpin' and gangster life.
How many kids live this life??
It just pisses me off. Just my rant.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:47 am
by EchoBeachBunnyBoy
I'm a 38 year old white male too, WPP, & I don't understand it either, but in a way I'm kind of glad that New Wave has stayed more or less an "underground" genre of music. Low commercial appeal means less chance of overkill which leads to boredom, IMHO.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:00 am
by WoodlandParkPunk
EBBB, you have given me a better perspective about new wave and I have to agree. Rap has become soooo mainstream it is cartoonish. Let's keep new wave underground. Thanks for the thoughts.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:15 am
by SwampThing
[quote]New wave was fun, bright, happy[/quote] I don't consider this as

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:44 am
by devildog
Because in this politically correct age, heaven forbid if you discredit any musical styles that are from minority groups. You see, New Wave was white male music and it was/is ok to knock it down. But rap represents a culture that has been historically m

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:09 am
by SwampThing
DevilDog.

I don't agree. Your post sounds a little Rush Limbaughish too me.

It's all about marketing and making big companies lots of money. It's free market econmics at work. Rap hasn't gone this far because of social politics, but because fats

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:41 am
by WoodlandParkPunk
But still, how do white kids relate to the rap music and culture???
I don't see many black kids embracing the rock,grunge,metal,new wave genre at all.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:04 am
by ghosty
As far as mainsteam hip hop goes, it's also a way to make millions upon millions of dollars without learning to play even rudimentary guitar, piano or drums. I'm sure that's also alluring to kids who don't want to take the time needed to form even a bad p

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:32 am
by skinnytie
In my opinion, new wave led the way to grunge which led the way to what became "alternative". Rap still was rap collectively, but there were a lot of off-shoots from it. If you ask me, the alternative of today is nothing like the new wave of yesterday,

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:46 am
by SwampThing
I actually borrowed 2 Eminem CD's from a relative just to see what all the hype was about. I ended up liking only 1 song out of the 20 or so. Ironically it was that one where they used a Dido song as the main riff, which has a vary catchy melody, I thin

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:56 am
by pikeprof
I found I just couldn't keep up with rap-I liked public enemy, Ice-T, Dr Dre', LL Cool J and Run-DMC-now all that stuff is old school-I also loved the old sugar hill stuff.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:05 am
by phillyidol
I guess it is still here because it will always be an available outlet for a certain group of people to vent their hate. Listen to the words my people! Listen to the words!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:34 am
by EchoBeachBunnyBoy
My niece is into the rap music of today as most teens are. She was listening to some song the other day & I informed her that the riff was from Thomas Dolby's classic "She Blinded Me With Science".
She had NO idea who Thomas Dolby was, which delighted me

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:53 am
by bpdp3
Anyone who was reading Trouser Press (constant companion of the new wave fan) knows that they gave much ink to rap, and introduced many of us to the form of music.

Rap was exciting, strange, foreign, a little dangerous and totally identifiable to the

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:28 pm
by KYYX4ever
Beastie Boys--Swamp Thing--Yessiree, I totally dug them back in the day. As a matter of fact, a recent release by them, "Hello Nasty" ( with "Intergalactic") was pretty awesome, too. "Licensed to Ill" was fun. Funny, though--in some ways, I don't necess