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Postby SynthesizerMan » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:46 am

Germany's Anna Logue Records is releasing a compilation of synthpop from obscure bands around the world. It is called "Echoes From Our Past" and will be released in vinyl only. I am pleased to say that my 80's band Invisible Zoo has a cut included.

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Postby Barmy » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:53 am

Vinyl only? No thanks. That's pretty lame.
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Postby eight6 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:19 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Barmy[/i]
<br>Vinyl only? No thanks. That's pretty lame.
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It is in keeping with the label's name though. I think all of their releases are vinyl only.

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Postby SynthesizerMan » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:16 am

Not lame at all, Barmy. Lots of people are into it. and I believe that eight6 is right. I'm not sure that I have seen anything from them that is not on vinyl.

Soon though, I will have an alternative if you are interested.

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Postby Max Murdoc » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:22 pm

[quote]Originally posted by SynthesizerMan
[br]Germany's Anna Logue Records is releasing a compilation of synthpop from obscure bands around the world. It is called "Echoes From Our Past" and will be released in vinyl only. I am pleased to say that my 80's band Invisible Zoo has a cut included.

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Hey Doug....which track of yours is included?

And by the way, I have an Igor Wakhevitch, Salvador Dali recording if your interested. Drop me an email.

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Postby Max Murdoc » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:36 am

From NPR:
April 16, 2007 · CD sales are declining, but there has been a resurgence in vinyl. Audiophiles are drawn to records because there aren't any anti-piracy restrictions and people claim they just sound better than their digital counterparts.


"NPR ran a story this morning about the comeback of vinyl. It seems that sales of new vinyl records are up about 10%; sales will approach a million this year (as against half a billion for CDs). NPR mentioned the popularity of a turntable with a USB interface — they didn't specify the brand; could be this one, or this — and speculated on other possible reasons for the resurgence. They mentioned sound quality and lack of DRM as possible causes. Sound quality can and will be debated, but DRM rates a resounding 'Duh.'"



Vinyl May Be Final Nail in CD's Coffin
By Eliot Van Buskirk Email 10.29.07 | 12:00 AM

As counterintuitive as it may seem in this age of iPods and digital downloads, vinyl -- the favorite physical format of indie music collectors and audiophiles -- is poised to re-enter the mainstream, or at least become a major tributary.

Talk to almost anyone in the music business' vital indie and DJ scenes and you'll encounter a uniformly optimistic picture of the vinyl market.

"I'm hearing from labels and distributors that vinyl is way up," said Ian Connelly, client relations manager of independent distributor alliance IODA, in an e-mail interview. "And not just the boutique, limited-edition colored vinyl that Jesu/Isis-style fans are hot for right now."

Pressing plants are ramping up production, but where is the demand coming from? Why do so many people still love vinyl, even though its bulky, analog nature is anathema to everything music is supposed to be these days? Records, the vinyl evangelists will tell you, provide more of a connection between fans and artists. And many of today's music fans buy 180-gram vinyl LPs for home listening and MP3s for their portable devices.

"For many of us, and certainly for many of our artists, the vinyl is the true version of the release," said Matador's Patrick Amory. "The size and presence of the artwork, the division into sides, the better sound quality, above all the involvement and work the listener has to put in, all make it the format of choice for people who really care about music."

Because these music fans also listen using portable players and computers, Matador and other labels include coupons in record packaging that can be used to download MP3 versions of the songs. Amory called the coupon program "hugely popular."

Portability is no longer any reason to stick with CDs, and neither is audio quality. Although vinyl purists are ripe for parody, they're right about one thing: Records can sound better than CDs.

Although CDs have a wider dynamic range, mastering houses are often encouraged to compress the audio on CDs to make it as loud as possible: It's the so-called loudness war. Since the audio on vinyl can't be compressed to such extremes, records generally offer a more nuanced sound.

Another reason for vinyl's sonic superiority is that no matter how high a sampling rate is, it can never contain all of the data present in an analog groove, Nyquist's theorem to the contrary.

"The digital world will never get there," said Chris Ashworth, owner of United Record Pressing, the country's largest record pressing plant.

Golden-eared audiophiles have long testified to vinyl's warmer, richer sound. And now demand for vinyl is on the rise. Pressing plants that were already at capacity are staying there, while others are cranking out more records than they did last year in order to keep pace with demand.

Don MacInnis, owner of Record Technology in Camarillo, California, predicts production will be up 25 percent over last year by the end of 2007. And he's not talking about small runs of dance music for DJs, but the whole gamut of music: "new albums, reissues, majors and indies ... jazz, blues, classical, pop and a lot of (classic) rock."

Turntables are hot again as well. Insound, an online music retailer that recently began selling USB turntables alongside vinyl, can't keep them in stock, according to the company's director, Patrick McNamara.

And on Oct. 17, Amazon.com launched a vinyl-only section stocked with a growing collection of titles and several models of record players.

Big labels still aren't buying the vinyl comeback, but it wouldn't be the first time the industry failed to identify a new trend in the music biz.

"Our numbers, at least, don't really point to a resurgence," said Jonathan Lamy, the Recording Industry Association of America's director of communications. Likewise, Nielsen SoundScan, which registered a slight increase in vinyl sales last year, nonetheless showed a 43 percent decrease between 2000 and 2006.

But when it comes to vinyl, these organizations don't really know what they're talking about. The RIAA's numbers are misleading because its member labels are only now beginning to react to the growing demand for vinyl. As for SoundScan, its numbers don't include many of the small indie and dance shops where records are sold. More importantly, neither organization tracks used records sold at stores or on eBay -- arguably the central clearinghouse for vinyl worldwide.

Vinyl's popularity has been underreported before.

"The Consumer Electronics Association said that only 100,000 turntables were sold in 2004. Numark alone sold more than that to pro DJs that year," said Chris Roman, product manager for Numark.

And the vinyl-MP3 tag team might just hasten the long-predicted death of the CD.

San Francisco indie band The Society of Rockets, for example, plans to release its next album strictly on vinyl and as MP3 files.

"Having just gone through the process of mastering our new album for digital and for vinyl, I can say it is completely amazing how different they really sound," said lead singer and guitarist Joshua Babcock in an e-mail interview. "The way the vinyl is so much better and warmer and more interesting to listen to is a wonder."
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Postby SynthesizerMan » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:41 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Max Murdoc[/i]
<br>[quote]Originally posted by SynthesizerMan
[br]Germany's Anna Logue Records is releasing a compilation of synthpop from obscure bands around the world. It is called "Echoes From Our Past" and will be released in vinyl only. I am pleased to say that my 80's band Invisible Zoo has a cut included.

world of noise
[/quote]

Hey Doug....which track of yours is included?

And by the way, I have an Igor Wakhevitch, Salvador Dali recording if your interested. Drop me an email.

Max (vinyl rules!)
[/quote]

[quote][i]Originally posted by Max Murdoc[/i]
<br>[quote]Originally posted by SynthesizerMan
[br]Germany's Anna Logue Records is releasing a compilation of synthpop from obscure bands around the world. It is called "Echoes From Our Past" and will be released in vinyl only. I am pleased to say that my 80's band Invisible Zoo has a cut included.

world of noise
[/quote]

Hey Doug....which track of yours is included?

And by the way, I have an Igor Wakhevitch, Salvador Dali recording if your interested. Drop me an email.

Max (vinyl rules!)
[/quote]

Hey Max, I've been thinking of you and left you a note on the reunion thread recently.

The song they are including is "How Can I Be Sure."

That's a great article you published below (above!)!

I would love the Igor Wakhevitch, Salvador Dali recording. I've got something for you too. A rare (I am told) Klause Schulze music video. The holidays must be coming up!

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Postby Yachtingtype » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:07 am

Off topic; but I have a question, did you ever record any music videos for any of the Invisible Zoo tracks? I am unable to locate any information.

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Postby SynthesizerMan » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:47 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Yachtingtype[/i]
<br>Off topic; but I have a question, did you ever record any music videos for any of the Invisible Zoo tracks? I am unable to locate any information.

Thank you
[/quote]

Hi Yachtingtype,

Yeah, we did one for Nobody's Girl. I don't run into it but I have a copy and I noticed somehow it is in the catalog of the SF public library. It is my intention to get it digitized and put it on YouTube or someplace for people to see. It was an unusual video that featured a deaf women interacting with us as a signer in the corner of the screen as we played. Soon she realizes that we are suggesting that she is the girl in the song - it's about a menage a trois proposed by the woman with two guys. They aren't interested and are trying to pawn her off on each other.

I won't tell you how it ends but it did leave us as the favorite band of the hearing impaired community! I loved that designation; it's so weird! There was often a small group of people at our shows holding balloons. Those were our hearing impaired friends transducing the music from the air. Very cool!

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Postby Yachtingtype » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:00 am

Thanks for the info! That is so cool, I would love to see that music video. When you get a chance you should upload it to youtube.com

I would assume you would have made one for Nighttime but, Nobody's Girls is a nice surprise! Did MTV play the video ever?

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Postby SynthesizerMan » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:11 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Yachtingtype[/i]
<br>I would assume you would have made one for Nighttime but, Nobody's Girls is a nice surprise! Did MTV play the video ever?
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It was played on a number of channels but to be honest I don't remember now which ones. Believe it or not, I didn't have cable then so the memories of that aspect aren't too strong for me.

As for choosing Nobody's Girl for the video, it was the cut that received the most airplay, with Synthesizer Man running second. In hindsight it would have been a good idea to do Nighttime because the extended mix of that song has emerged over the decades as perhaps the most popular thing we did.

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Postby Ollie Stench » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:16 am

I have a 12" EP with Synthesizer Man on it. What other releases were there?
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Postby eight6 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:53 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Max Murdoc[/i]
<br>From NPR:
April 16, 2007 · CD sales are declining, but there has been a resurgence in vinyl. Audiophiles are drawn to records because there aren't any anti-piracy restrictions and people claim they just sound better than their digital counterparts.


"NPR ran a story this morning about the comeback of vinyl. It seems that sales of new vinyl records are up about 10%; sales will approach a million this year (as against half a billion for CDs). NPR mentioned the popularity of a turntable with a USB interface — they didn't specify the brand; could be this one, or this — and speculated on other possible reasons for the resurgence. They mentioned sound quality and lack of DRM as possible causes. Sound quality can and will be debated, but DRM rates a resounding 'Duh.'"



Vinyl May Be Final Nail in CD's Coffin
By Eliot Van Buskirk Email 10.29.07 | 12:00 AM

As counterintuitive as it may seem in this age of iPods and digital downloads, vinyl -- the favorite physical format of indie music collectors and audiophiles -- is poised to re-enter the mainstream, or at least become a major tributary.

Talk to almost anyone in the music business' vital indie and DJ scenes and you'll encounter a uniformly optimistic picture of the vinyl market.

"I'm hearing from labels and distributors that vinyl is way up," said Ian Connelly, client relations manager of independent distributor alliance IODA, in an e-mail interview. "And not just the boutique, limited-edition colored vinyl that Jesu/Isis-style fans are hot for right now."

Pressing plants are ramping up production, but where is the demand coming from? Why do so many people still love vinyl, even though its bulky, analog nature is anathema to everything music is supposed to be these days? Records, the vinyl evangelists will tell you, provide more of a connection between fans and artists. And many of today's music fans buy 180-gram vinyl LPs for home listening and MP3s for their portable devices.

"For many of us, and certainly for many of our artists, the vinyl is the true version of the release," said Matador's Patrick Amory. "The size and presence of the artwork, the division into sides, the better sound quality, above all the involvement and work the listener has to put in, all make it the format of choice for people who really care about music."

Because these music fans also listen using portable players and computers, Matador and other labels include coupons in record packaging that can be used to download MP3 versions of the songs. Amory called the coupon program "hugely popular."

Portability is no longer any reason to stick with CDs, and neither is audio quality. Although vinyl purists are ripe for parody, they're right about one thing: Records can sound better than CDs.

Although CDs have a wider dynamic range, mastering houses are often encouraged to compress the audio on CDs to make it as loud as possible: It's the so-called loudness war. Since the audio on vinyl can't be compressed to such extremes, records generally offer a more nuanced sound.

Another reason for vinyl's sonic superiority is that no matter how high a sampling rate is, it can never contain all of the data present in an analog groove, Nyquist's theorem to the contrary.

"The digital world will never get there," said Chris Ashworth, owner of United Record Pressing, the country's largest record pressing plant.

Golden-eared audiophiles have long testified to vinyl's warmer, richer sound. And now demand for vinyl is on the rise. Pressing plants that were already at capacity are staying there, while others are cranking out more records than they did last year in order to keep pace with demand.

Don MacInnis, owner of Record Technology in Camarillo, California, predicts production will be up 25 percent over last year by the end of 2007. And he's not talking about small runs of dance music for DJs, but the whole gamut of music: "new albums, reissues, majors and indies ... jazz, blues, classical, pop and a lot of (classic) rock."

Turntables are hot again as well. Insound, an online music retailer that recently began selling USB turntables alongside vinyl, can't keep them in stock, according to the company's director, Patrick McNamara.

And on Oct. 17, Amazon.com launched a vinyl-only section stocked with a growing collection of titles and several models of record players.

Big labels still aren't buying the vinyl comeback, but it wouldn't be the first time the industry failed to identify a new trend in the music biz.

"Our numbers, at least, don't really point to a resurgence," said Jonathan Lamy, the Recording Industry Association of America's director of communications. Likewise, Nielsen SoundScan, which registered a slight increase in vinyl sales last year, nonetheless showed a 43 percent decrease between 2000 and 2006.

But when it comes to vinyl, these organizations don't really know what they're talking about. The RIAA's numbers are misleading because its member labels are only now beginning to react to the growing demand for vinyl. As for SoundScan, its numbers don't include many of the small indie and dance shops where records are sold. More importantly, neither organization tracks used records sold at stores or on eBay -- arguably the central clearinghouse for vinyl worldwide.

Vinyl's popularity has been underreported before.

"The Consumer Electronics Association said that only 100,000 turntables were sold in 2004. Numark alone sold more than that to pro DJs that year," said Chris Roman, product manager for Numark.

And the vinyl-MP3 tag team might just hasten the long-predicted death of the CD.

San Francisco indie band The Society of Rockets, for example, plans to release its next album strictly on vinyl and as MP3 files.

"Having just gone through the process of mastering our new album for digital and for vinyl, I can say it is completely amazing how different they really sound," said lead singer and guitarist Joshua Babcock in an e-mail interview. "The way the vinyl is so much better and warmer and more interesting to listen to is a wonder."
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Let's hope some bright spark figures out how to produce noiseless vinyl. Then we'd have the best of both worlds.

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Postby SynthesizerMan » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:16 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Ollie Stench[/i]
<br>I have a 12" EP with Synthesizer Man on it. What other releases were there?
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There was a "Maxi-Single, Vanity Records 3035S, containing extended mixes of Nighttime and Synthesizer Man.

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