New Wave Outpost Forum

I was going to post this in the "Next Wave" section as "When did Next Wave start?", but thought that maybe a broader question might be better. Actually what I have is a few related questions:

1. When did new wave influence reach a nadir? The grunge era? There were several mid-90's bands with new wave influence: The Lightning Seeds, The Rentals, The Magnetic Fields, No Doubt...

2. Is new wave influence again in a period of decline after a brief resurgence in the early 00's?

3. Was there ever really a period where new wave influence was effectively absent? If so, when did Next Wave start?

Yes, I know this is a confused, rambling jumble. Help me straighten it all out.

<IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/cjmratings/stuff/in_action_small.jpg">

I kinda had the same question in the "next wave section"

.....I think there was about a 3 year period when "New Wave" ceased to exist, to when legitimate acts started 'aping' older new wave....
approx 1990 - 1993/94 is that period.

for example, Blur's song "Boys and Girls" came out around that time (94?) (which was the first real nod to new wave in a "retro" kind of way that I can think of --- if you know what I mean) then bands like Elastica, and (I guess) No Doubt etc. really were adding a Blondie, Cars sound

....so that's contention...we were without "New Wave" for about 3 years...for that period it was replaced by grunge, (new)punk (green day), Hip-house, rap, "electronica" etc ----

really, I think Next Wave is essentially "Indie".... just a thought...

Rotator's take on it sounds good to me.

I always have pegged next wave as starting around 2000, when The Hives, White Stripes and Strokes broke onto a lot of Alternative stations playlists, bouncing most of the rap metal crap off. That got me interested in new music again.

[quote][i]Originally posted by tileboy[/i]
<br>I always have pegged next wave as starting around 2000, when The Hives, White Stripes and Strokes broke onto a lot of Alternative stations playlists, bouncing most of the rap metal crap off. That got me interested in new music again.
[/quote]

That was when it started getting old. The first wave of the next wave (The Faint, Soviet, The Walkmen, etc.) was much better. [:D]


<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v604/motors/?action=view¤t=andysahomo.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/motors/andysahomo.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

I agree with rotator's take that new wave was pretty dead during the '90 - '93 era.

Another sure sign was the fact a bunch of bands from the new wave era still making music in the early 90's refused to sound remotely new wave, but rather made an attempt to sound grungy and distorted. And mostly awful. The Cult for example. And some bands couldn't let that horrible sound go even into the mid-90's...Midnight Oil tried to grunge out on a couple of tunes for their 1997 greatest hits cd. Yuk. That said, Depeche Mode and REM pulled off some reasonably listenable grungy tunes during that period...