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Cool article on Vinyl records

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:11 pm
by DJ Phoenix
Pretty good read....



Music lovers rediscover the timbre of turntable By REBECCA BOONE, Associated Press Writer
Fri Jul 11, 9:29 AM ET



BOISE, Idaho - Travis Dryden spent his childhood listening to his parent's records. And then he left them behind with the other detritus of his pre-college years to be sold for pennies at a yard sale.



Lured by the portability of cassette tapes, the iridescent gleam of compact discs, then the miniaturized wonder of MP3 players — who needed the fragile, antiquated technology of an LP?

As it turns out, Dryden did.

Now, like thousands of other reborn vinyl addicts, he scours record stores around the country, trying to get those lost records back.

"I abandoned a lot of my collection, unfortunately," Dryden said. "I started at record stores, thrift stores, garage sales and estate sales. When I travel for business I seek out record stores and thrift stores at the cities I visit."

Right now, Dryden said, his collection is small with only about 500 albums. But it might as well be 50,000 — as co-founder of the Vinyl Preservation Society of Idaho, a rapidly growing group in Boise, Dryden gets the opportunity to listen to selections from thousands of records at the organization's monthly meetings.

The group started last year with a handful of people. They brought CDs, MP3s and records, meeting in each their homes to talk and listen to music. Again and again, Dryden said, the group found themselves choosing the warm hum of the turntable over the cold precision of digital formats.

"We found our love of vinyl overtook the others," he said. "We knew there had to be others like us."

They were right. Word spread about the group that gathered to listen to vinyl, and Dryden and his brother Chad spent three months coming up with the structure that would form the skeleton of the Vinyl Preservation Society. Eight months later, the group has more than 100 members. And Dryden hopes to see chapters spring up around the nation, and eventually the world.

At a recent meeting Dryden said a typical member "is just someone who can embrace a Pink Floyd song followed by Bobby Darin. It's mercurial, it's a big social experiment, and it's probably the only place you can stand up and play a piece of music you had nothing at all to do with creating and people will honestly clap for you."

The Boise group isn't alone in its love of vinyl. Coffee houses and lounges in cities like Portland, Ore., are featuring vinyl record listening sessions. Stores like Urban Outfitters are selling portable record players. Last fall Amazon.com started a vinyl-only section. Vinyl record pressing plants are ramping up production, and some musicians are selling albums primarily on vinyl, including coupons for MP3 downloads of the songs for portability's sake.

Independent record stores are seeing more people turned on to vinyl, said Michael Bunnell with The Record Exchange in Boise. Events like Record Store Day, held annually in April to celebrate independent record stores and the vinyl culture, are gaining popularity, he said.

Still, for vinyl revivalists its more about the ethos than the trend. Proponents applaud the expanse of cover art, so decadent compared to the tiny screen of an iPod. Those with a finely tuned ear laud the warmer sound, compared to digital music's brighter, louder and compressed tones.

And the nostalgia is a draw even to those who weren't around to remember the records the first time they were played.

"I like the sound — it's intriguing, not so perfect," said Alina Schimpf, 21, who first began listening to records after seeing a turntable and vinyl collection at her 25-year-old boyfriend's apartment. "It's kind of cool, a novelty. I'd really like to get a turntable but it's kind of an investment."

Her boyfriend, Morgan Davis, remembers the thrill of sneaking into his father's vinyl collection.

"It's like a historical document," Davis said. "When I was younger I'd listen to my father's vinyl ... He'd get mad if I scratched them up, so I'd listen when they were not around."

Boise collector Jim Leonard prefers vinyl for its "warmer sound" and convenient play length — about 20 minutes to a side.

"I never felt that the introduction of a new format meant you had to abandon the old one," Leonard said. "When you play an acoustic record on a Victrola, it's an indescribable, magical sound."

Listening to a record forces you to listen, said Don Jewell, a 60-year-old member of the group.

"It just seems more human to me, more human and direct. When you're listening to it you need to get up and change the record, flip it over. There's no playing 4,000 songs like in an MP3 player," Jewell said.

The physical involvement somehow makes the medium more precious, said David Hale, who gave a presentation at a Vinyl Preservation Society meeting about his grandfather's role as a promoter for Atlantic Records.

"It's music in the raw: You're pulling the vinyl out of the case, making sure you get that needle in the exact spot, making sure you lift it clean so you don't scratch it," Hale said. "There's definitely more reverence there."


"Keepin the '80s alive!"

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:50 pm
by WLIRRIP
As a vinyl fan, I really appreciate that story.

LPing is not for the faint of heart, if you wanna take things seriously. You can get a cheapo turntable for $100 and if you're not picky about the sound quality, you'll likely be satisfied with your purchase. But if you're like me, you need to do a lot more. Playing a record becomes a ritual.

* First there's the setup of a respectable TT. The cartridge's installation can be very cumbersome and it may be best to have a professional do it. Indeed deciding on a turntable/cartridge combination can take some time.

* After the purchase and cartridge installation, there's placement of said TT. Keep away from speakers as much as you can. There are cabinet systems and racks you can buy that can isolate your TT from vibrations, but they're not cheap. You can also buy a wall support. Just make sure the wall in the decided spot can support the weight.

* Then there's the prepping of your records. I bought an expensive vacuum system that sucks the junk out from the deepest recesses of the record's grooves. If you've attuned your ear to the various details of sound quality, you will hear a difference (on my Blancmange LP, I heard a difference in the upper frequency detail and sharpness after the cleaning).

* Then comes cleaning the stylus (or needle) itself. Be gentle here.

* Then you can play your record.

I also use a glove to handle my LPs. Finger chemicals can cause problems down the line for your stylus, I believe.


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Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people he chose for his inheritance.
Psalm 33:12

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:59 pm
by DJ Phoenix
Hey pal, thanks so much for the delightful tips(Seriously[:)]), that was very fun to read(your post), and I learned a few things from it. I dug the article alot too, but I also dug your response, thanks for it.

"Keepin the '80s alive!"

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:07 pm
by BigBri
Don't forget to wear your goggles when you remove your LPs from the humidor.

I still enjoy listening to and buying vinyl. And I know my collection is not in the best shape it could have been in.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:17 pm
by WLIRRIP
[quote][i]Originally posted by DJ Phoenix[/i]
<br>Hey pal, thanks so much for the delightful tips(Seriously[:)]), that was very fun to read(your post), and I learned a few things from it. I dug the article alot too, but I also dug your response, thanks for it.

"Keepin the '80s alive!"
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My pleasure. I'm an audiophile, so I take things more seriously than the average person will.

If you'd like further information, I may be able to point you to a few sources.

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Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people he chose for his inheritance.
Psalm 33:12

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:57 pm
by motnow
Here's Another suggestion....
Have 2 turntables: The first one for playing the records that are in good-to-excellent condition and the second for records/albums that look like they were used as frisbees.

I've gone to many garage sales and thrift stores and picked up albums, sight unseen, only to find they were scratched up beyond imagination. If you have a second turntable just for the banged up records, you don't have to worry about damaging your good stuff after the needle was trashed by the frisbees.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:49 am
by WLIRRIP
[quote][i]Originally posted by motnow[/i]
<br>Here's Another suggestion....
Have 2 turntables: The first one for playing the records that are in good-to-excellent condition and the second for records/albums that look like they were used as frisbees.

I've gone to many garage sales and thrift stores and picked up albums, sight unseen, only to find they were scratched up beyond imagination. If you have a second turntable just for the banged up records, you don't have to worry about damaging your good stuff after the needle was trashed by the frisbees.
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Yeah you know, that's an interesting problem. I cannot afford a second TT, but having one you're willing to abuse may help. Unfortunately, I'd just have to chalk it up to aging the stylus/cartridge. Or, I simply won't buy the record. Or, I'll clean it as thoroughly as I can, play it / digitize it once, and never play it again. There must be something in the online audio fora about problems like this. Maybe I'll do a check later.

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Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people he chose for his inheritance.
Psalm 33:12

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:17 pm
by WLIRRIP
Okay. Did a little querying at the Audio Review forums and got this response:


"I would just play them with an inexpensive MM cart. I have a Shure M97E just for that purpose. There are too many great albums out there for us, and a scratch or two shouldn't keep us from enjoying what matters the most. MUSIC.

I dont like to recommend it on new LP, but for used LP that you just wanna listen to, I suggest you get Groov-Glide. It does reduce background noise and allows your stylus to track better. It will not remove or reducec pops and clicks.

If your LP is in that bad of condition, then try scrubing them with 10:1 solution.(distilled water/91%+ Iso Rubbing Alcohol).

If that doesnt do it, then get a hand-held steamer from a Wal-Green for $20. Scorch your LP from about 5-6" from surface and scrub way. It will remove decades of gunk and funk."


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Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people he chose for his inheritance.
Psalm 33:12