New Wave Outpost Forum

They seemed to be one of the biggest producers and songwriters at the time of their height in popularity.Here is the great lineup that they once had as recording artists.I used to see their names all over the place back in the 80's.

Bananarama
Dead Or Alive
Dolly Dots
Dollar
Hazell Dean
Kylie Minogue
Sinitta

I am sure that they did alot more,but right now these are the only names that I could come up with for now.Can anyone add some other artists to this list? And what artists did you like that Stock Aitken Waterman produced?

You can add:

Rick Astley
Mel & Kim
Samantha Fox
Lonnie Gordon
Sybil
Jemma & Elise

They did some work with Donna Summer.

newwavepopman you only put in two new wave bands in your list as well: Bananarama and Dead Or Alive, the others had nothing to do with new wave either.

[quote]Originally posted by newwavepopman
[br]Wrong every one of the SAW artists I listed were all New Wave which included,Kylie,Sinitta,Dollar,The Dolly Dots,and Hazell Dean.They all had that Synthpop New Wave sound,some were more New Wave than others,but were still New Wave.Plus the fact that Kylie is even more New Wave now and in the late 90's even more than she was in the 80's.
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Kylie Minogue is not (and never was new wave). Just because she does one or two songs in a synthpop/technopop style doesn't make her new wave. Locomotion was new wave? I don't think so. You are not going to win this argument[:I]

[quote]Kylie Minogue is not (and never was new wave). [/quote]
I have to agree here, never seen her in that category before, *not even* AMG places her there.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with the others folks. Only a few Stock Aitken Waterman artists produced anything that could be called New Wave and even those you need a mighty broad definition of what constitutes New Wave to have them fit.

Face it, Stock Aitken Waterman didn't really do New Wave. They produced Top 40 pop / dance records which sometimes had New Wave elements or instrumentation.

FWIW--

Didn't SAW produce Brilliant's _Kiss the Lips of Life_? Not a great record, but more new wave than Kylie.

--fxc

I'm torn here. I worship at the throne of Kylie (lol). I don't think she's given half the respect she deserves. Her "Impossible Princess" album is one of the best CD's of the 90's. She's not New Wave though. I don't know what she is. Art-ish pop?

Her new album "Body Language" is HEAVILY influenced by early 80's synth-pop. Too bad nobody in the U.S. bought it.

Also loved her remix/collage of "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" with New Order's "Blue Monday".

Sigue Sigue Sputnik "Success" (or as the cover said, "Stock Aitken Sputnik"!)

(And Kylie and Sinitta were both pop/disco, like Rick Astley - not at all "new wave"! And Hazel Dean was a pure disco staple - about the only thing "new wave" there was her hair gel.)

[quote]Originally posted by newwavepopman
[br]I'm with you here Ghosty.I just worship the ground that Kylie walks on.And by the way,Kylie is New Wave,I gather none of you ever heard the song In Denial with Kylie and The Pet Shop Boys.And she also did a song with Nick Cave which totally sucked.He isn't New Wave though.More like Goth.There are a ton of songs on Kylie's album Light Years that are totally New Wave sounding,such as the title song Light Years.

Also one of her hits from that album "On A Night Like This" was totally New Wave.She may have never been called New Wave at any time,but anything that even sounds remotely like synthpop I call New Wave.I can't think of any synthpop artists who were not New Wave.
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So by your definition, Brittney Spears is New Wave. And Christine Ag.
And almost all rap acts.

While an unabashed Kylie fan, I can't consider her New Wave primarily because I lock New Wave into a time period (late seventies to mid-80's). That's probably a controversial stance to take in this group. Certainly there are acts who came on the scene during that era and yet continue to record to this day. While I might refer to them as New Wave acts, I don't think of New Wave music as an ongoing concern, just a label used to define a certain sound from a certain time period. Same with Alternative. That's my way of looking at it anyway. I don't expect everyone to fall in line with that because we all have our own interpretations.

For example, if you say Psychedelic Rock just about anyone will immediately think of the 60's and yet there were Psychedelic-sounding records released last year! Are those records made in the same spirit as their original 60's counterparts or are those records merely an affectionate tip of the hat to a bygone era?

It's these sorts of questions, however, that keep the discussion of music interesting.

[quote]Originally posted by ghosty
[br]While an unabashed Kylie fan, I can't consider her New Wave primarily because I lock New Wave into a time period (late seventies to mid-80's). That's probably a controversial stance to take in this group. Certainly there are acts who came on the scene during that era and yet continue to record to this day. While I might refer to them as New Wave acts, I don't think of New Wave music as an ongoing concern, just a label used to define a certain sound from a certain time period. Same with Alternative. That's my way of looking at it anyway. I don't expect everyone to fall in line with that because we all have our own interpretations.

For example, if you say Psychedelic Rock just about anyone will immediately think of the 60's and yet there were Psychedelic-sounding records released last year! Are those records made in the same spirit as their original 60's counterparts or are those records merely an affectionate tip of the hat to a bygone era?

It's these sorts of questions, however, that keep the discussion of music interesting.
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I agree 100%. It refers to a time-period, as well as a style, and also an attitude.

She has no "credibility" as a New Wave artist. C'mon, sound isn't the only attribute to consider when placing an artist into a genre.

If you were to poll active members of this discussion board I'd bet less than 3% consider her New Wave (Maybe even only one member [:0]).

Covering songs does nothing for her credibility. Mandy Moore covered XTC, does that give her New Wave credibility? She's a pop star, period. I also consider the Pet Shop Boys pop/dance/club music, not New Wave.

I cringe imagining her butcher a Clash song!!!!I'll have track down some mp3's of her covers...

Dusty Springfield also recorded with P.S. Boys. Um, is she New Wave?

By the way, Kylie had nothing to do with the New Order interpolation - it was first done by a DJ, then properly licensed for commercial release. Kylie never commissioned it.