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Best Joy Division and New Order songs

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Postby TheMunDial » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:06 am

Wow, so many replies...

I rather like Joy Devision's "Atrocity Exhibition". Yessum, Ah's does.
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Postby fanciz » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:58 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by TheMunDial[/i]
<br>Wow, so many replies...

I rather like Joy Devision's "Atrocity Exhibition". Yessum, Ah's does.


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All of this to tell us that you prefer De/Vision?[:D][:D][:D]
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Postby TheMunDial » Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:16 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by fanciz[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by TheMunDial[/i]
<br>Wow, so many replies...

I rather like Joy Devision's "Atrocity Exhibition". Yessum, Ah's does.


[/quote]

All of this to tell us that you prefer De/Vision?[:D][:D][:D]
[/quote]

I don't understand the question, and I won't respond to it. [;)]
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Postby fanciz » Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:26 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by TheMunDial[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by fanciz[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by TheMunDial[/i]
<br>Wow, so many replies...

I rather like Joy Devision's "Atrocity Exhibition". Yessum, Ah's does.


[/quote]

All of this to tell us that you prefer De/Vision?[:D][:D][:D]
[/quote]

I don't understand the question, and I won't respond to it. [;)]


[/quote]

Just a joke, the band is Joy Division not Devision, capische?[:D][:D]
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Postby pretzelbag » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:42 am

I can't believe I'm the first to suggest this as a great NO tune:

"Sunrise" from Low-life.

I've always thought it captured a certain energy that is sometimes missing from their more electronic songs. Then again, someone posted on Amazon that people have not liked it ("guitar is too heavy"). Oh well.

Of course I like the other stuff mentioned on the thread, but something about the buildup of anger in "Sunrise" gets me tapping my fingers at the start of the song and pounding my fist on the table/dashboard/whatever at about the 5:00 mark...

-pretzelbag.
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Postby Mechi » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:49 am

I am going to mention one of the Waiting for... songs that I think is great: Morning Night And Day. It has certain energy.. it makes you wanna party.
I also like "Who's Joe?" from waiting.... excellent album!!

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:32 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Mechi[/i]
<br>I am going to mention one of the Waiting for... songs that I think is great: Morning Night And Day. It has certain energy.. it makes you wanna party.
I also like "Who's Joe?" from waiting.... excellent album!!
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They all make me wanna party. Morning, Joe, Hey Now, Krafty (especially when the drums kick in at the chorus), Guilt, and especially Turn, a real gem with all the New Order signature sounds. Even Barny's admittedly just-passable voice shines in that last one, especially the "Daaaays turn into months and years, I can't forget that you were here...." line.
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Postby Mechi » Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:12 am

You have a very good point there, Blir. All songs from Waiting.. make want to sing and dance. That is what makes it a great album, all the songs stick in your head immediately. The second time I listened to it, I could remember all the lyrics... that doesn't always happen.

PS: I think that one of these days I'm gonna die of a heart attack while dancing Blue Monday... I can't control myself every time I listen to it. That's the magic of No! [:)]

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Postby KYYX4ever » Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:16 am

^Totally. Me too.^

I will NEVER get tired of hearing "Blue Monday." That song will ALWAYS be in my Top 3. Amazing how I have NEVER gotten sick of it!
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Postby obs » Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:33 pm

My favourite JD song has to be Atmosphere. It's kind of uplifting sounding even with the depressing style vocals.

I think the first thing you should get is the NewOrderStory DVD (New Order Item). It is an outstanding 2h+ documentary that I'm glad was finally released as DVD. As a bonus, you get a DVD of the New Order promo videos as well [;)]. The two disc set is priced like a single disc release in North America.
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Postby fanciz » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:36 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by pretzelbag[/i]
<br>I can't believe I'm the first to suggest this as a great NO tune:

"Sunrise" from Low-life.

I've always thought it captured a certain energy that is sometimes missing from their more electronic songs. Then again, someone posted on Amazon that people have not liked it ("guitar is too heavy"). Oh well.

Of course I like the other stuff mentioned on the thread, but something about the buildup of anger in "Sunrise" gets me tapping my fingers at the start of the song and pounding my fist on the table/dashboard/whatever at about the 5:00 mark...

-pretzelbag.

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IMO Sunrise is a good song, it has some gothic flavor and is reminiscent of Joy Division but is it really representative of NO? I think that when someone not familiar with a band requests for a little guidance we should set aside our subjectivity to give an objective advice independently of our own liking.....


To clarify matters, I would add this.
Is Sunrise a good song? Yes it is, actually I like it very much.
Is Low Life a good album? Yes indeed, may be not the best but close.

The point that I raised was the following:
When a newbie interested in a band requests for guidance, should we recommend that obscure demo that we particularly like or the songs that the majority of fans like? ..... which usually happen to be the best anyway.
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:46 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by fanciz[/i]
<br>IMO Sunrise is a good song, it has some gothic flavor and is reminiscent of Joy Division but is it really representative of NO? I think that when someone not familiar with a band requests for a little guidance we should set aside our subjectivity to give an objective advice independently of our own liking.....
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You have got to be kidding me! IT'S ALL SUBJECTIVE!!! Are you freaking delusional?! Wait, nevermind.
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Postby fanciz » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:03 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by fanciz[/i]
<br>IMO Sunrise is a good song, it has some gothic flavor and is reminiscent of Joy Division but is it really representative of NO? I think that when someone not familiar with a band requests for a little guidance we should set aside our subjectivity to give an objective advice independently of our own liking.....
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You have got to be kidding me! IT'S ALL SUBJECTIVE!!! Are you freaking delusional?! Wait, nevermind.
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I guess it's a common mistake to think that there is no objectivity in music. There are parameters in terms of creativity, melody, rhythm, vocals etc. It's a skill which can be developed....Some dudes will never get it.
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Postby MARV » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:17 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by fanciz[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by fanciz[/i]
<br>IMO Sunrise is a good song, it has some gothic flavor and is reminiscent of Joy Division but is it really representative of NO? I think that when someone not familiar with a band requests for a little guidance we should set aside our subjectivity to give an objective advice independently of our own liking.....
[/quote]
You have got to be kidding me! IT'S ALL SUBJECTIVE!!! Are you freaking delusional?! Wait, nevermind.
[/quote]

I guess it's a common mistake to think that there is no objectivity in music. There are parameters in terms of creativity, melody, rhythm, vocals etc. It's a skill which can be developed....Some dudes will never get it.
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Please, go on. Elaborate if you will. I don't "get" these "parameters".

By the way, here are some of my favorite New Order songs:

Here To Stay
Temptation
Touched By The Hand Of God
1963
Regret
Spooky
Perfect Kiss
Thieves Like Us
Vanishing Point
Round & Round
World
World In Motion
All Day Long
Bizarre Love Triangle
Vicious Streak
Love Vigilantes
Sooner Than You Think
Subculture
Dreams Never End
Doubts Even Here
Age Of Consent
Your Silent Face
Leave Me Alone
Young Offender
Liar
Procession
Love Less
Mr. Disco
Vanishing Point
Dream Attack
Who's Joe
Waiting For The Sirens Call
Krafty

And here are some of my favorite Joy Division songs:

Transmission
Atmosphere
Love Will Tear Us Apart
She's Lost Control
Warsaw
No Love Lost
Leaders Of Men
Atrocity Exhibition
Passover
Disorder
Insight
Shadowplay
A Means To An End
Decades
Dead Souls
Walked In Line
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Postby fanciz » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:39 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
Please, go on. Elaborate if you will. I don't "get" these "parameters".

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I guess I will open a different topic later about that matter not to hijack this one.[:D]
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