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Postby MARV » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:37 am

It really is criminal.....in my most humble opinion, of course. People smoking in a car with children is akin to giving them every cancer and disease that they voluntarily subject themselves to. We have laws that put people away for beating, raping and abusing kids. I don't see this as a very far departure from that spitrit of child welfare protection at all.

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Postby birdmadgirl » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:44 am

I think smoking in a house or car where children are present *is* child abuse.



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Postby empyrean » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:59 pm

How i wish we have laws like that here in our country. I remember before, Manila had an ordinance that prohibits smoking in public transport vehicles (bus, jeepneys). If the enforcer saw you smoking, they'll stop the bus and pull you outside forcibly, and you will be humiliated in public.

Now, the authorities does'nt do that anymore although the ordinance still exist.
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Postby i_like_lectric_motors » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:54 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by empyrean[/i]
If the enforcer saw you smoking, they'll stop the bus and pull you outside forcibly, and you will be humiliated in public.

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Postby empyrean » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:35 pm

Our police only has low salaries (sorry motors), thats why they are prone to corruption. If the offender will pay the police a handsome amount, they'll let you go, without charges. [:D][:D][:D]
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Postby MARV » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:18 pm

What's a jeepney?

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Postby oneno » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:44 am

Jeepney. looks like something Shirley Jones should be driving.Hey isn't that Danny Bonaduce hangin off the back?
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Postby DSR » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:08 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>What's a jeepney?

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It's one of the major transportation here in the PHILIPPINES.

empyrean: Maybe our authorities should really get rid first of those smoke belchers vehicles than those smokers.[;)]

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Postby MARV » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:17 pm

Is it actually part of the public transportation system? Government subsidized if not sponsored? It just seems dangerous, people sitting on the roof. That would never fly in America.

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Postby DSR » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:27 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>Is it actually part of the public transportation system? Government subsidized if not sponsored? It just seems dangerous, people sitting on the roof. That would never fly in America.

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marv, actually the photo shown by oneno happens only on the deep provinces of the Phillipines where the means of transportation is very difficult. Here in Manila the jeepneys are not that crowded like the photo showed. YUP! it's one of the public transporations like the TOYOTA TAMARAW FX.

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Postby DSR » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:33 pm

The first jeepney here was transported by the AMERICAN soldiers in WORLD WAR II when GENERAL DOUGLAS MCARTHUR returned. It was then modified by the FILIPINOS in several occassions.

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Postby empyrean » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:24 pm

And jeepneys are neither subsidized nor sponsored. They are privately owned. Its like a taxi....although we do have taxis. [;)]

Yup DSR, our Government should throw away all those smoke belchers!!![:D]
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Postby KYYX4ever » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:04 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by marvymarv[/i]
<br>Is it actually part of the public transportation system? Government subsidized if not sponsored? It just seems dangerous, people sitting on the roof. That would never fly in America.

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When I traveled around Africa, those types of buses/"jeepneys" were very common, but no matter what the vehicle looked like, there were ALWAYS people on the roof. Sometimes livestock! For some reason, people crammed themselves anywhere they could fit when the bus was full. Most of the time, it was unknown when the next bus would come along, so folks just climbed aboard any bus they could. It was also common to hang onto or out of the windows, hop onto the runningboards and clutch any part of the bus you could hang onto, hang off the back of the bus while standing on the fenders, and...clamber atop the roof. A lot of the time, you didn't have to pay if, technically, you couldn't make it [i]inside[/i] the bus. The authorities tried to crack down on it, but they couldn't be everywhere at once. I swear I am not making this up. Here's my funny story: once, while travelling in the Sudan via crowded bus, we were on a stretch of rural road and the bus stops for a small crowd of people on the side of the road. They also have livestock! A few of the folks on the bus jump off and begin rigging up some ropes for a pulley to get the cow and goats atop the bus. The bus driver stood next to the bus shouting at them the entire time that they were not allowed to be doing this (well, I actually couldn't understand the language, but that's what it sounded like to me). Everyone else on the bus is just acting like this is completely normal. Anyway, the livestock all get hoisted up on the roof and tied down to it, and we get rolling again. However, the cow doesn't like this one bit, and starts kicking and rolling around. We weren't far down the road before the cow managed to punch a hole in the roof with its hoof! For the rest of the journey, this cow hoof is sticking thru the roof, immobilized, and everyone is acting like this is normal business. I thought it was hilarious! This kind of stuff appeared to happen all the time. I will try to scan a good picture I have of an overpacked bus. "Safety" was not at the top of their minds; getting where you needed to go was. Sorry to babble; I have a lot of these types of stories. Vehicle transportation in other countries is always fraught with STORIES ![:D]
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Postby MARV » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:46 am

I went to Bangkok as a teenager. Twice. I remember the buses never stopped. They just sort of slowed down and you had to jump on and off. Talk about precarious! One thing I always like to do when travelling abroad is take the local transit. This is one of the things anybody can do to feel like a "local". I also remember the "tuk-tuks"...no idea if that is even spelled right. But they were these three wheeled motor-bike like things with a sort of carriage in the back where the passengers sat. Again, precarious, considering that the traffic in Bangkok seems to have no rules of the road! Makes NYC traffic seem TAME.

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Postby manekineko » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:05 am

Oh, my god, the traffic in Bangkok is wild. Tuk-tuks are everywhere. They're cheaper than taxis and because they're small, they go where cars can't, like in between lanes of traffic. And scooters are everywhere, too, weaving in and out of traffic and around the many potholes. It's total chaos. And fun as hell.

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