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Postby darwinsky » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:49 am

I read through this whole thread and i'm glad I took the time. I cannot recall such entries that would have so much impact in my life. I finally now how to use those #$%@*$#!* emoticons [:o)][:I][8D][:D][:)][:p][}:)][8][B)][:0][:(!][^][:X][V]

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Postby obs » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:37 pm

[i]Maybe I'm misunderstanding this obs, but do you really think iTunes rips mp3s differently than any other encoder? That it encodes "worse" than others?[/i]

It's only because not all encoders are built the same. ITunes built-in one is Fraunhofer, which is outdated. I guess they didn't want to file lawsuits with all the other MP3 encoders floating around (FhG invented MP3), so they put their resources towards AAC instead.

FhG has problems sometimes when encoding in joint stereo (which is why I eventually switched to LAME), and it's implementation of VBR isn't very good either.

I guess you can configure Itunes to use LAME, but unless you want to use Itunes to organize your library, you're better off using something else.

As for ripping CDs, I'm guessing that when error-correction is enabled, Itunes just interpolates when an error is detected, thereby not giving a dead on balls accurate rip. I think this because if you put in a heavily scratched disc, Itunes just chokes and gives up, resulting in an incomplete track. The worst thing about this is that it doesn't even tell you that it couldn't rip the track!



[i]Can most people even discern the audio difference between .mp3 and other file formats?[/i]

There's no need. As mentioned, MP3 can create an indistinguishable file from the original CD in blind listening tests. For higher than CD quality, AAC may sound better though. Of course AAC has the bitrate/quality advantage, but loses out severely in the compatibility area.

[i]I just wish someone(computer and/or recording industry) would just use the best format and then make it universal[/i]

It's called MP3 [:D]


[i]Artist-Album-Song.mp3 = *ridiculous*[/i]

Yeah, I agree. Don't people know what directories are for?
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Postby n/a5 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:54 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by obs[/i]
<br>[i]Maybe I'm misunderstanding this obs, but do you really think iTunes rips mp3s differently than any other encoder? That it encodes "worse" than others?[/i]

It's only because not all encoders are built the same. ITunes built-in one is Fraunhofer, which is outdated. I guess they didn't want to file lawsuits with all the other MP3 encoders floating around (FhG invented MP3), so they put their resources towards AAC instead.

FhG has problems sometimes when encoding in joint stereo (which is why I eventually switched to LAME), and it's implementation of VBR isn't very good either.

I guess you can configure Itunes to use LAME, but unless you want to use Itunes to organize your library, you're better off using something else.

As for ripping CDs, I'm guessing that when error-correction is enabled, Itunes just interpolates when an error is detected, thereby not giving a dead on balls accurate rip. I think this because if you put in a heavily scratched disc, Itunes just chokes and gives up, resulting in an incomplete track. The worst thing about this is that it doesn't even tell you that it couldn't rip the track!



[i]Can most people even discern the audio difference between .mp3 and other file formats?[/i]

There's no need. As mentioned, MP3 can create an indistinguishable file from the original CD in blind listening tests. For higher than CD quality, AAC may sound better though. Of course AAC has the bitrate/quality advantage, but loses out severely in the compatibility area.

[i]I just wish someone(computer and/or recording industry) would just use the best format and then make it universal[/i]

It's called MP3 [:D]


[i]Artist-Album-Song.mp3 = *ridiculous*[/i]

Yeah, I agree. Don't people know what directories are for?
[/quote]

I like this Obs fellow!
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Postby obs » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:53 pm

Had to leave before I finished my previous post ...


[i]Oops, not "LAME" the nice mp3 encoder, for which there is a plug-in to iTunes if you don't like its native encoders.[/i]

The itunes/lame plug-in is only for Mac. For Mac, I guess Itunes is okay, as I don't think there's any secure ripper available.


[i]As for artist names, for me it's always firstname - lastname.[/i]

Yikes, don't tell me you are an Ueber(morons).net fan, where they also like to file group names that start with The under T, because they can't figure out that The The, would be "The, The" under normal cataloguing methods.
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Postby Warzau » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:55 pm

Nero didn't you have luck with that software I "gave" you :)
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Postby Spaz » Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:16 pm

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do think that women with big boobies are way cool.

Then again, women with small and medium boobies are cool, too.

Boobies rule!


Oh, wait a minute.....wrong forum!

Sorry guys! I meant to post this in the Boobies forum!



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