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Postby xtc-1957 » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:49 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Temple Of New Wave[/i]

Someone mentioned Cyndi Lauper's [i]A Night To Remember[/i]...that's not a bad album, either. In fact, every one of her albums is great,
except the new Jazz one ([i]At Last[/i]).
[/quote]

Absolutely!!...Cyndi is terribly underrated. A great writer, an incredible voice, and one of the best concerts I've ever seen. All of her albums are easy to listen to. I love that woman.
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Postby bscheffel » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:30 am

Thomas Dolby "The Flat Earth" was a big disappointment from the "Golden Age of Wireless"...
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Postby KYYX4ever » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:54 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by NuWaveRx[/i]
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I guess some albums I was not as impressed with:
1. INXS--Kick. yes it made them superstars around the world, but compared to The Swing and Listen Like Thieves? Pass,

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good call here.
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Postby Spaz » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:50 am

[quote]

[i]Seven and the Ragged Tiger[/i] was very good, perhaps not as good as [i]Rio[/i], but hey, what was?


[/quote]

Don't get me started on this one........

I can think of at least 100 albums that came out within the same year as Rio that are a lot better than Rio.

Funny thing, this album seems to be as over-rated as the Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds" and the Beatles' "Sgt Pepper".

I don't fault anyone for liking it as much as they do, but I bought it when it first came out, listened to it a few times and filed it away. I don't think I even bothered to re-listen to it after it took off a few months later. I sold the LP years ago and have never had the desire to buy the CD version.

But then again, that's just me. I'll take the brilliance of Spandau Ballet's "True" album over "Rio" any day.....and that is NOT a joke...
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Postby Temple Of New Wave » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:41 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Spaz[/i]
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I can think of at least 100 albums that came out within the same year as Rio that are a lot better than Rio.

Funny thing, this album seems to be as over-rated as the Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds" and the Beatles' "Sgt Pepper".

[/quote]

Well, I'm not a huge Beatles or Beach Boys fan...so I'm with you on those.

But [i]Rio[/i] is a damn fine album. But I do agree it's a tad overrated. I like [i]Seven And The Ragged Tiger[/i] about as much, and my favorite Duran song is "I Don't Want Your Love" from [i]Big Thing[/i].

[quote]

But then again, that's just me. I'll take the brilliance of Spandau Ballet's "True" album over "Rio" any day.....and that is NOT a joke...

[/quote]

Ugh! You're killing me here! Does Spandau Ballet have even [i]one[/i] listenable tune? I mean really, what do you SB fans find to like about their lightweight, derivative meanderings?

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Postby bpdp3 » Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:09 am

Spaz, it's all subjective blah blah blah and I can't argue your personal preference of 'True', but if you haven't given 'Rio' another listen in all these years, you should. You're missing out on one of the best of the era.

Believe me, I've heard alot of great (AND crappy!) new wave over the years. I would be happy to find you a $1 copy of the lp. It's just NOT RIGHT not to have it at least sitting in your collection....it won't devalue the rest of your colletion, trust me.

Should there be zoning laws in a new wave record collection?? hmmm....
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Postby KYYX4ever » Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:11 am

Early Spandau, while they were still cutting it up in the New Romantic scene in England, sounded totally different. It's really cool stuff: "To Cut a Long Story Short", "The Freeze", and "Chant No.1" were stompy dance numbers with muscle and no fluff. Later, when they came out with "True" etc., (although I liked these tunes, too), they had adopted a radically different sound, the blue-eyed crooning fancy-suit style. Mmmm.
To each his own!
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:27 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Temple Of New Wave[/i]
<br>Ugh! You're killing me here! Does Spandau Ballet have even [i]one[/i] listenable tune? I mean really, what do you SB fans find to like about their lightweight, derivative meanderings?
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Wait a minute. Mr "Union of the Snake, Space Age Love Song, Look of Love, and Never Ever Freakin' Ending Story in his top 50" is complaining about "lightweight"?! Just what "temple" are you worshipping at? All this MTV stuff comes during the mainstream and after the greatest new wave already hit.

Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff on your list, but it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. I strongly recommend giving early Spandau another try and even revisting True.
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Postby xtc-1957 » Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:13 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by KYYX4ever[/i]
<br>Early Spandau, while they were still cutting it up in the New Romantic scene in England, sounded totally different. It's really cool stuff: "To Cut a Long Story Short", "The Freeze", and "Chant No.1" were stompy dance numbers with muscle and no fluff. Later, when they came out with "True" etc., (although I liked these tunes, too), they had adopted a radically different sound, the blue-eyed crooning fancy-suit style. Mmmm.
To each his own!
[/quote]

I didn't know that about Spandau. I'm one of those who never gave them a chance - don't have one song by them. I'll look for some of their early stuff on the Hub. Thanks for the tip, KYYX.
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Postby schwenko » Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:35 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Temple Of New Wave[/i]
<br>[quote][i]Originally posted by Spaz[/i]
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I can think of at least 100 albums that came out within the same year as Rio that are a lot better than Rio.

Funny thing, this album seems to be as over-rated as the Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds" and the Beatles' "Sgt Pepper".

[/quote]

Well, I'm not a huge Beatles or Beach Boys fan...so I'm with you on those.

But [i]Rio[/i] is a damn fine album. But I do agree it's a tad overrated. I like [i]Seven And The Ragged Tiger[/i] about as much, and my favorite Duran song is "I Don't Want Your Love" from [i]Big Thing[/i].

[quote]

But then again, that's just me. I'll take the brilliance of Spandau Ballet's "True" album over "Rio" any day.....and that is NOT a joke...

[/quote]

Ugh! You're killing me here! Does Spandau Ballet have even [i]one[/i] listenable tune? I mean really, what do you SB fans find to like about their lightweight, derivative meanderings?

Marc
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To Cut A Long Story Short is a GREAT song! I wasn't even aware of it until some djs played it at the Spoons concert in Vancouver I went to last summer.
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Postby Temple Of New Wave » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:37 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
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Wait a minute. Mr "Union of the Snake, Space Age Love Song, Look of Love, and Never Ever Freakin' Ending Story in his top 50" is complaining about "lightweight"?! Just what "temple" are you worshipping at? All this MTV stuff comes during the mainstream and after the greatest new wave already hit.

Don't get me wrong, I love the stuff on your list, but it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. I strongly recommend giving early Spandau another try and even revisting True.
[/quote]

Okay, I've only heard Spandau's later stuff...didn't care for it. Maybe the early stuff is good. I didn't like Berlin or Simple Minds, until I heard their early material.

But, I mean, you can't blame me...when Spandau Ballet is compared to Duran Duran, and all I've got to go on is True...I mean come on! But maybe they have some good early stuff. Is there a particular recording I should pick up?

By the way, Neverending Story is a good song! :) Limahl's got a great voice, whether solo or with his old band.

Marc
P.S. If you think A Flock of Seagulls and "Space Age Love Song" is lightweight, then please tell Edge and the "deep" U2 to stop ripping off their guitar style for the past 15 years!
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Postby Frau_Blucher » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:48 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Temple Of New Wave[/i]
<br>By the way, Neverending Story is a good song! :) Limahl's got a great voice, whether solo or with his old band.
[/quote]
I'm sorry. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me with that bastard! The song sucked then, it sucks now, it will suck at the end of time. [V] Also, if put aside all of the popululist historical context of the True album. I bet you'll find a pretty well-crafted album. The single itself is expansive, blissful, and pretty epic.

Whatever the case, you have inspired me to post my top 100 favorite pre MTV songs. I'll be back with a list soon with that!
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Postby Temple Of New Wave » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:14 pm

[quote][i]Originally posted by Blir[/i]
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I'm sorry. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me with that bastard! The song sucked then, it sucks now, it will suck at the end of time.[/quote]

Wow. That really sucks. Let me guess...backstage at one of his concerts?

[quote] you have inspired me to post my top 100 favorite pre MTV songs. I'll be back with a list soon with that!
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Awesome! I'd love to read it, especially because my knowledge of pre-1982 New Wave material is pretty sketchy. I'll definitely look for that.

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Postby Frau_Blucher » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:30 am

[quote][i]Originally posted by Temple Of New Wave[/i]
<br>P.S. If you think A Flock of Seagulls and "Space Age Love Song" is lightweight, then please tell Edge and the "deep" U2 to stop ripping off their guitar style for the past 15 years!
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Point well noted. I actually don't think any of the songs we both mentioned are truly "lightweight". I love them all. They have the perception of lightness though, compared to supposedly "more serious" music. The "True" album fits into the same such perception but is equally deserving of better regard IMHO.
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Postby randy » Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:56 pm

REM's Murmer--lame after Chronic Town!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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